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From: Janette Chun <>
Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 13:13:29 -0800
In-Reply-To: <8C907C943522A10-1688-2624@mblk-d24.sysops.aol.com>


Hi Leandro,

Can you send me specific names and/or dates? If you prefer to do it
privately please send to .

I'm South African of Portuguese heritage living in Vancouver, Canada.

Janette
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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo

Hi Janette....

Im based in London but im brazilian...and about you???

Thak you for your info...actually is been quite hard to find those
copies. The names that im looking for is DRUMOND, FIGUEIRO, MONIZ DE
MENESES, TELO DE MENESES, TAVORA....among others...

if you can help me in anyway id be very very grateful

thank you

Leandro

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From:
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Sent: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 8:36 PM
Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo

Hello Leandro,

Sorry for the delay in reply. I've pasted below an excerpt from Pat
Corbera, one of our active list members, and a very generous source of
information.


The Famillas da Madeira e do Porto Santo by Conego Fernando de Menezes
> Vaz with Notas de Dr. Ernesto Goncalves e Eng. Luis Peter Clode is an
> unfinished work with limited surnames listed. Conego Menezes Vaz died
> before completing this work.
>
> Aditamentos (additions/corrections & notas finais) are contained in
> Vol
> 14 and 15.
> Vol 1 thru 5 are "A" surnames
> Vol 6 thru 10 are "B" surnames
> Vol 11 thru the first part of Vol 13 are "C" surnames The first few
> pages of Vol 14 contain information on the Calacas Miedeiros family
and
ends there...

The books are out of print although some volumes to surface from time to
time on antiquarian book sites, but at a hefty price. The Madeira
archive
also provides copies of any pages required at about 1 euro a page. Let
me
know the specific names you're looking for and I'll check my copy to
see if
I can find it. Where are you based?

Janette


-----Original Message-----
From:
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 10:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo

Hi Janet....

On my family there are some clacas and 1 Gois de Carvalho.....

how can i get that book that you mentione?? whats the title and wheres
available???

Thank you

Leandro

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Sent: Thu, 11 Jan 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo

Hi Pat,

Thank you for following up. I did not receive this message. I do have
copies of the Calacas and the Calaca Medeiros volumes, however, it is
the
reference to the " to (the 'o' is superscript) de Gois de Mendonça'
that I
was curious about. For example, on page 420 of the Calacas Mideiros
book,
under Joao Maria Telo (listed top left-hand column) there is reference
to
this 'to de Gois de Mendonça. I would like to know what/where this
information is. There are several references to this throughout the
pages I
have.

I've tried the archive and they suspect it references Luiz Peter Clode's
unfinished book. I think I just saw something on the newly updated
archive
site with this author's name, but haven't yet had any time to
investigate.
Any light that can be shed will be highly appreciated.

Thanks again for all your help.

Janette

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From:
[mailto:] On Behalf Of papagaia2
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:37 AM
To:
Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo

Jeanette,
Not sure if you ever received this message that I posted in Nov. 2006.
Please let me know if you did.
Pat Silva Corbea

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Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo


> Janette,
> The Famillas da Madeira e do Porto Santo by Conego Fernando de
Menezes
> Vaz with Notas de Dr. Ernesto Goncalves e Eng. Luis Peter Clode is an
> unfinished work with limited surnames listed. Conego Menezes Vaz
died
> before completing this work.
>
> Aditamentos (additions/corrections & notas finais) are contained in
Vol
> 14 and 15.
> Vol 1 thru 5 are "A" surnames
> Vol 6 thru 10 are "B" surnames
> Vol 11 thru the first part of Vol 13 are "C" surnames
> The first few pages of Vol 14 contain information on the Calacas
Miedeiros

> family and ends there...
>
> If you let me know the Vol and page number that you are referring to
I'll
> be more than happy to look it up and see if I can help you with
references

> to pages that you do not have.
>
> To the best of my knowledge this publication is not available online,
nor
> on LDS film.
> LDS does have film on "Registo Genealogico De Familias Que Passaram
A
> Madeira"
> Film number 1183626 Item # 5. This publication is by Eng. Luiz Peter
> Clode.
> It's a listing/write-up for many surnames, and contains 485 pages.
>
> Pat Silva Corbera
> Tracy CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [mailto:] On Behalf Of Janette Chun
> Sent: November 13, 2006 1:09 PM
> To:
> Subject: [PT-MADEIRA] Book - Familias da Madeira e Porto Santo
>
> Hello,
> I recently received a couple of pages from the Families of Madeira e
Porto
> Santo book with details of some of my ancestors. It's been a very
exciting
> discovery but I'm wondering if anyone can help me answer a couple of
> questions.
>
>
>
> 1) Frequently after entries, there is a reference - e.g. em to de
> Calaca or em to de Coelhos, etc. - what does this reference?
>
> 2) I've looked for the book online but have only been able to find it
> at antiquarian book dealers - at a hefty price - title stipulates
Vol. 1 -
> how many volumes are there?
>
> 3) Is this book available online similar to the TOMO I, II, III and
how
> does this book differ from the TOMOs?
>
>
>
>
>
> Suggestions/feedback welcome.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Janette Chun
>
> (Canada)
>
>
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