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From: "Carl Woods" <>
Subject: Re: [PYLE] PILE/PILES Family of Orange Co., NC, and Fentress Co., TN
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 09:59:04 -0500
References: <mailman.835.1159765250.23846.pyle@rootsweb.com><008501c6e62b$3c68c840$6401a8c0@home4wzau439r0>


My connection is to Daniel Pile, b. in Orange Co., N.C. and married Nancy
Atkinson. Stephen Pile told me that his DNA didn't match with the English
line of Pyles.

Our family stories are that our line went back to PA. and was of German
orgin. And that there was so many different spellings of the name. One of
the reasons was cause of all the teasing about the name. I know that my gr
grandfather change it from Piles to Pyle.

Jacob and Daniel, was really close and in my line is Daniel's son Ratliff
Boone Pile or Piles, was born in Lawrence Co., Indiana, in 1824. He did go
to Ky. and worked. I don't know if he met his wife there or not, but he
married an Aniss Johnson b. 1827 Ky. They was married in Ill. and she also
went by the name Anna.

So I think that Sue may have the right track about Conrad Sr. was born in
Germany or was the one that worked with the English.

Carl Woods
Kansas
----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan Tilleman" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: [PYLE] PILE/PILES Family of Orange Co., NC, and Fentress Co., TN


> This is in reply to Jim SMEE's () Oct. 1, 2006, posting
> to
> the RootsWeb PYLE list titled "Henderson PILE (c1820-1898)." The Levi
> PILE
> you mention was my ggg-grandfather. Additional information about Levi and
> his family can be found at the following sites:
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/GENE15-000
> 1.html
> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PILE/2003-04/1051387819
>
> A photograph of Levi's son George Washington PYLES, can be found on my
> home
> page at the following site:
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/PHOTO/0039
> photo.html
>
> In summary:
> 1. I have been trying for almost 25 years to connect my ggg-grandfather
> Levi PILE to the Conrad "Old Coonrod" PILE family of Fentress Co., TN. I
> do
> believe there is a connection, but I have not yet identified the exact
> connection. Another researcher previously told me that Levi's wife Nancy
> Anna "Anna" MCFARLAND appeared in the household of Conrad's son Elijah on
> one of the censuses,. Furthermore, back in the 1930s or 1940s, my
> great-grandfather told my mother that they were related to Sgt. Alvin C.
> YORK of World War I fame. Alvin YORK was a direct descendant of Conrad
> PILE. The fact that Levi was born in Tennessee and lived in the same area
> as Conrad's family also suggests that he is somehow related to Conrad. As
> noted in my previous posting to the PILE list, Levi and his family were
> living next-door to Elijah's son John in Fentress Co., TN, at the time of
> the 1850 census.
> 2. As noted in my previous posting, it appears that Levi PILE may have
> been
> a Civil War deserter. I have not yet been able to gather any information
> about him since that time. A story has also been passed down through our
> family about somebody "going over the hill," but the details have been
> lost.
> 3. Also, as noted in my previous posting, it appears that Conrad's
> father,
> also named Conrad, may have been a Hessian mercenary during the
> Revoluationary War named PFEIL. This means that this PYLE family is most
> likely not related to the PYLE family that is of English origin.
>
> Sue Tilleman
> Live Oak, Texas
> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/PYLE/2006-10/1159705877
>
> From:
> To: <>
> Sent: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 08:31:17 EDT
> Subject: [PYLE] Henderson PILE (c1820-1898)
>
> Hello to Steve PILE,
>
> I've been working with your cousins Nancy and Jack PYLE of Grants Pass, OR
> to try to place her Henderson PILE (c1820-1898). She sent me your way.
>
> If I understand correctly, a DNA match between her Jack PYLE and you(?)
> would say you and Jack both descend from Conrad PILE. Your descent is from
> Conrad
> 's Jacob PILE. Jack's descent is from Henderson, but it is unclear who
> Henderson's father was. Based upon age, we're assuming Henderson was a
> grandson to Conrad.
>
> 1. Conrad did not leave a will or estate record in Fentress County. Aaron
> PYLE's book and Howard PYLE's book name his children (with Howard's
> information mostly credited to Aaron, I think). Do you know how the list
> of
> ten
> children was developed or proven?
>
> Jacob born c1785 (to IN by 1818)
> Daniel born c1787 (to IN by 1818)
> Catherine born c1788 (married a RICH)
> Delila born c 1790 (married a CROCKETT)
> Elizabeth born c1793 (married Henry HELM; seems to be in WI with Henderson
> PILE by 1846)
> Elijah born c1795
> John possibly born c1802
> Jehu born c1802 (migrated about 1838 to Stephenson Co IL, which happens to
> border Lafayette Co Wisconsin; died in IL in 1882. His will "proves" that
> Henderson was NOT his son.)
> William born c1810
> Martha born ?? married James LATHAM
>
> 2. There is quite a gap between Elijah and John PYLE's births (c1795 to
> c1802). What would you think about a "theory" that there was a PILE male
> born
> to Conrad in the 1795 to 1802 time frame, who by c1819 married Nancy ___,
> had
> Henderson (born c1820) and then Levi PILE (born c1824 and also unplaced).
> This male died shortly thereafter, leaving a widow Nancy PILE, who appears
> as
> a household head in the 1830 census (need to see that record). She
> remarried
> to George HELM, but then herself died c1840 (per an 1881 remembrance in WI
> regarding George HELM).
>
> Could "Carr PILE", age 20 to 30 years, of the 1820 Fentress County census
> be
> that male? (I need to see that original census record to see if "Carr" is
> some other more recognizable name. I've only seen a transcription.)
>
> I apologize for an overly long e-mail, but I'm hoping it might spark a
> response to help Nancy and Jack, and maybe descendants of Levi PILE as
> well.
>
> Jim SMEE
> Pittsburgh PA
>
>
>
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