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From: Donalda James <>
Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Exciting DNA news
Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:17:52 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <37920EB71B0641DE9477037F3012EE35@na4d848f4054a4>


Hey there Cousin Esther Mitchell, and hello to you too, Susan Rosine!! Another descendant of James Quakers from Pennsylvania, up to Ontario in 1804 ( James, Harvey, Baker, Goodwin, Lundy, Pearson (Webb and Clayton through Pearson connection), Widdifield, Hilborn, Gould, Lee, Vernon, and on, and on!! Isn't genealogy great??
Donalda James in BC

--- On Fri, 2/26/10, Esther Mitchell <> wrote:

> From: Esther Mitchell <>
> Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Exciting DNA news
> To:
> Received: Friday, February 26, 2010, 6:01 PM
> And the Pearsons married the James
> and the James married the Hodgsons, all
> Quakers originally from Pennsylvania who came up to Canada
> c.1805.
>
> Esther Mitchell
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kim Spangrude" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2010 5:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Exciting DNA news
>
>
> > Hi again, Susan!
> >
> > I suppose that in some families (for example, our
> Townsends), there
> > will be thousands and thousands of close
> matches.  I know that the
> > Quaker community back then was very close, and people
> tended to marry
> > back and forth between families; the Pearsons and
> Townsends, the
> > Cains, the Parsons, the Cadwalladers, Coxes, Wheelers
> and on and on.
> > My husband (a stemcell biologist) tells me that
> autosomal DNA testing
> > is more "unstable" the further back it looks, and
> therefore it is most
> > useful for the first several generations; and, another
> nice thing
> > about it is that the test looks at more markers than
> the yDNA or
> > mtDNA, and so the likelihood of finding more matches
> is greater.  I
> > think I may go ahead and do this test; do you know if
> ftDNA can use
> > the sample from our Townsend man that I sent in a few
> years ago, to do
> > autosomal dna testing, or will it need to be a fresh
> sample?
> > Kim
> > On Feb 26, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Susan Rosine wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hey there Cousin Kim (through the Quaker
> Townsends)!
> >>
> >> Autosomal looks at more than one ancestor. Y-DNA
> looks at just your
> >> male Townsend line (for example). A male carrying
> the surname of
> >> Townsend must take the test, and it will only look
> at the direct
> >> paternal line.
> >> mtDNA looks at the direct maternal line of a
> person. So, right away,
> >> you are able to see more than just the two lines
> (y and mt).
> >>
> >> Every time a man and women have a child, the child
> gets a random mix
> >> of half of his dad's DNA, and half of his mom's.
> This is called
> >> autosomal DNA. Siblings will not get the same mix;
> it's random!!
> >>
> >> For example, my dad and his sister already did
> this autosomal test
> >> with 23andMe (where it is more expensive). 
> They do not match
> >> exactly, but they share about 50% of the same DNA
> segments. They
> >> each got a random mix from their parents. Now,
> when my dad had me, I
> >> only got half of his! So, as you can see, you can
> lose a lot of your
> >> ancestors' DNA pretty quickly--but at the same
> time, you'll also get
> >> a random blend of many ancestors' DNA.
> >> Now comes the fun part!! Once you get your
> results, you'll also get
> >> notifications of who you match with. You then
> trade emails with each
> >> other, sharing ALL your known surnames. You should
> be able to find a
> >> common ancestor.
> >>
> >> Kim, let's say you had your Townsend man do the
> test. I've already
> >> signed up my father to do it through FTDNA. My
> Townsend ancestor is
> >> on my dad's side of the family. He MIGHT still
> have a segment of
> >> Townsend DNA. And your relative may have that same
> segment. They
> >> would compare info and discover the common
> ancestor, and common DNA.
> >> My dad does not carry the surname of Townsend, so
> he can't test with
> >> the Townsend DNA project, but through this new
> testing he can
> >> hopefully find out if he has any Townsend DNA that
> made it down to
> >> him.
> >>
> >> My dad's sister already found a match with 23andMe
> on her Quaker
> >> Heaton line. She matches with another person who
> has the same Heaton
> >> ancestor. However, my dad does not match his
> sister or this person
> >> on this segment of his DNA, so he inherited a
> different segment than
> >> his sister!!
> >>
> >> Once the test opens up to everyone sometime in
> March, anyone can
> >> take the test, and we should start seeing lots of
> matches to distant
> >> cousins of all sorts of our ancestor surnames,
> because it won't
> >> matter what your own surname is, or what your
> Y-DNA or mtDNA results
> >> are!!
> >> Susan
> >>
> >>
> >> From: Kim Spangrude
> >> Subject: Re: [Q-B-I] Exciting DNA news
> >> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010
> >> Susan,
> >> How is the autosomal DNA different from the other
> two? In what
> >> scenarios would it be helpful to have results from
> this test?
> >> Kim
> >>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 11:22:29 -0700
> >>> From: Susan Rosine
> >>> Subject: [Q-B-I] Exciting DNA news
> >>>
> >>> Hello everyone!
> >>>
> >>> Some of you may already have received an email
> from FTDNA, inviting
> >>> you to participate, at a special low
> introductory price, in their
> >>> newest type of DNA test, which they are
> calling "Family Finder".
> >>> This test looks at your autosomal DNA, NOT
> your Y-DNA and NOT your
> >>> mtDNA. If any of you have tested with 23andMe,
> it is similar to
> >>> their Relative Finder.
> >>>
> >>> For those who did NOT receive an email from
> FTDNA about the special
> >>> price offer, the British Quakers DNA project
> has been allowed to
> >>> offer ONE person in our project the special
> price (Rootsweb does
> >>> not allow publication of price information).
> >>>
> >>> If anyone is interested, it's limited to ONE
> offer from our
> >>> project. First come, first served! You must
> already be a member of
> >>> the British Quakers DNA project through FTDNA,
> and you must not
> >>> have already received the individual offer
> from FTDNA.
> >>>
> >>> Here is the an extract from the notification
> that project
> >>> administrators received:
> >>>
> >>> "We are now prepared to offer to each of our
> Group Administrators
> >>> the opportunity to participate in the 2nd
> phase of the pre-launch
> >>> of this exciting new tool.
> >>> Each Group Admin may select one kit # that
> He/She would like to
> >>> order a Family Finder test at the introductory
> price of $xxx. "
> >>>
> >>> You will find more information about the test
> on your own personal
> >>> myFTDNA page.
> >>>
> >>> The Family Finder test will be open to
> everyone else in March, but
> >>> I do not know what the price will be at that
> time. I can tell you
> >>> that it is a very good deal right now, based
> on what they charge
> >>> for this test at 23andMe.
> >>>
> >>> Susan
> >>
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