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Subject: Coates and Weldon in Ireland (Readdressal from Edward Sinker)
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1998 17:17:26 -0600 (CST)

Hi all,
Edward Sinker from the UK sent me a most interesting letter which I
have posted to the entire list, since I know several members descend
from Elizabeth Weldon. And there is a lot of interest in the Coate
family. Hope you don't mind, Edward, but this is too interesting to
keep to myself. Thanks for taking the time to write it.
Best Wishes, Bruce Wood
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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 1998 21:27:24 +0100
To:
From: Edward Sinker <>
Subject: Re: Ancestors of Moses Coates?

Hi Bruce

Thanks for your helpful advice and the interesting information on
your Elizabeth Weldon. I do have my Coates in Ireland pinned down
pretty well. I would like to try and find out where in England they
come from.

What I have from A Genealogy of Moses and Susanna Coates, by
Truman Coates, 1906 is:

At our Six weeks men's Meeting at Clonmel, 27th 12 mo. 1714 -
Moses Coats, son of Thomas Coats of Ballycater in the County
of Caterloe, & Susannah Weldon, daughter of Samuell Weldon of
Gullacasane appeared in this meeting & signified their intentions
of marriage......

At the Province Men's Meeting at Cork, 25 2mo 1715 -
Moses Coats of the County of Catherow and Susana Wielding
of the County of Tipperary having made known their intentions
of marriage.......

At our Six weeks men's Meeting at Kilcomon Beg ye 10 of 2mo 1715 -
John Boles & Solomon Watson being appointed by the Province
Meeting to write some friends in the County of Cataloe to enquire
into the clearness of Moses Coats......

At the Province men's Meetig in Cork the 25 2mo 1715 -
(minute no. 2) Moses Coats in prson and Susanna Weldon by
Certificate under her hand seconded by the women's meeting
of Cashell having signified ye continuation of their desires for
ye accomplishing their intended marriage........

Note: Kilcomon Beg is situate in County Tipperary, 8 or 10 miles
south of Cashel. I believe the meeting-house and grave-
yard there (they have long since disappeared) passed
into the hands of the Earl of Glengall and formed a part
of his domain. An old story tells that he threw the Quaker

bones into the Suir which flowed close by....<snip>.....
J. Ernest Grubb,
Carrickon Suir, Ireland
1905.

>From our men's Meeting held at Carlel ye 8th day of ye 3d Mo.
anno 1717.
These may certifie all whom it may concern that our friend
Moses Coats having a resolution to remove from this country
to America desires some few lines from us to friends we
therefore do certifie you where his lot may fall that he has
been brought up from a child among us and behaved himself
orderly as also kept constantly to our Meetings both Monthly
and Weekly as they came he also took his wife among friends
in the Province of Munster his proceedings therein we refer
you to his marriage certificate he also for some years has been
admitted into our Mens Meeting as a member thereof.
signed in behalf and by order
of our Mens Meeting by
James Lackey
Thos. Parke
Samuell Wattson

At Haverford (now Radnor) Monthly Meeting 10mo 1 1717 -
Moses Coates produced a Certificate from friends at Carloe
in Ireland, signifying his behaviour there among them.......

Office of the Society of Friends, 6 Eustace Stree, Dublin,
2, 6mo 1905

Dear Friend, Truman Coates, M.D.
(Memeo from Carlow M.M. Proceedings).
1mo 1693 Thomas Coats name occurs in a list of subscribers
his subscription was 3
In 1699 his name again occurs for a much smaller sum toward
a New Meeting House in Carlow.
In the book of Marriage Certificates, from 1660 to 1768, there
is a marriage certificate of Mary Coats (married to
JosephThompson - both of Carlow) dated 19, 2mo 1702,
the first signature as witness to it is Thomas Coats but
no particulars are given of her parents as is now the case.
In the Monthly Meeting Proceedings Book there is an entry of
the 22, 12, 1712, respecting Thomas Coats and his son
Moses Coats, disowning them from Membership on
account of conduct "bringing reproach on the Truth.2
It appears that the present Friends Meeting House in Carlow
was built about 1718. The membership on 12 mo 31 1904 was
twenty-two. There were at the above date twelve Monthly
Meetings of Friends with a recorded membership of twenty-five
hundred and eleven, in Ireland.
J: Beauley Beale.
_____________________________-

I went on a bit with this message but I thought that you might be
a bit interested in it with the mention of Weldon and the locations.
As you can see there is a good amount of info for my Coat(e)s in
Ireland but not a hint of their origins. It would appear that they
added the e in Coates when in America but then I notice the
Quaker records tend to always leave the e out. - Ed

Edward Coates Sinker - email:
Church Lea
Bosbury
Herefordshire HR8 1PX
U. K.

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