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From: "Dan Treadway" <>
Subject: Re: [Q-R] RUPELL or RUSSELL?
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 08:09:20 -0500
References: <12.dbff15c.284e6d77@aol.com> <a05010422b742cf97e45c@[152.3.11.21]>


There was a John Russell who lived in Kilmackart, Carlow,
Ireland, two or three generations before the time of the
certificate cited by Janet. His daughter, Anna, became Quaker,
and eventually my ancestor.

There is a good article on this Penrose family in the _New
England Historical and Genealogical Register_ volume 116,
beginning in the October 1962 issue on page 237, continuing in
several installments, and ending on page 207 of volume 117. The
reference to John Russell is on page 247 of volume 116: "On 25
March 1669, i.e. after the arrival of his [Robert Penrose's]
brother in Ireland, he married ANNA RUSSELL, died in Ballykean,
probably as the result of childbirth, 5 April 1676, daughter of
John Russell of Kilmackart in Carlow, of whom nothing else is
known. The Kilmackart Friends records are silent on these
Russells who may not have been Friends."

The fact that John Russell's place of residence is given in
connection with his daughter's marriage suggests to me that he
was still alive then. We can speculate that the father of a
woman married in 1669 is likely to have been born within ten
years of 1619. The first Quaker meetings in Ireland began about
1654 at Lurgan, but I do not know when it reached Kilmackart or
Ballykean.

Records of the Wicklow meeting cited in the article show clearly
that Robert and Anna Penrose were Quakers at least as early as
1673.

---
Dan Treadway
postal: P. O. Box 72, Gilbert IA 50105
email:
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Harris" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 1:13 PM
Subject: [Q-R] RUPELL or RUSSELL?


> Thank you, Janet, for reposting these HADLEY records from
Moate!
>
>
> >Signed on behalf of the said people, by order of our mo
meeting at the
> >Moate
> >the 7th of 12 mo 17110
> >
> >
> >John Wyle John Mikle Abraham Fuller
> >Thomas Lightfoot John Rupell Benj Parvin
> >Joshua Clifforn Bra. Clibborn Gregory Rupell
> >Jonathan Robinson Christopher Coates
> >Joseph Robinson John Turnor
> >
>
>
> I'm wondering if John and Gregory RUPELL could possibly be
RUSSELL
> instead, a mis-reading perhaps of an old-style double S.
>
> My reason for asking:
>
> Samuel RUSSELL was one of the early Quaker immigrants to South
> Carolina, coming there around 1750 in association with the
TOMLINSON
> and ENGLISH families, who also have connections to Moate MM. I
know
> nothing so far of his ancestry, so these names are potentially
of
> interest. His will, probated in South Carolina in August 1757,
left
> property to daughter Olive TOMLINSON. Josiah TOMLINSON
(Olive's
> husband), wife Sarah RUSSELL, and Samuel MILHOUSE were
executors.
> Olive, who died about 1760, is referred to in some Tomlinson
> genealogies as Olive UNTHANK, but this will suggests that she
was a
> RUSSELL.
>
> Is anyone researching this RUSSELL line, and can anyone confirm
> whether John and Gregory in the signatures abover are really
RUPELLs,
> or if they could be RUSSELLs?
>
> --
> Elizabeth Harris
>
>
> NCGenWeb project: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/
> Winston-Salem NC area genealogy:
http://users.erols.com/fmoran/
>
>
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