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From: "Alan Buckingham" <>
Subject: [Q-R] Re: Gilpin Pedigree
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 21:04:42 -0400
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Bob,
I will send you a copy this weekend. It contains the line beginning with Richard de Gylpyn's grant of Kentmere in 1206 and continues through to the late 1800's with considerable information for some of the more prominent members such as Bernard Gilpin "The Apostle of the North". It also draws on the early work done at Scaleby Castle as well as a couple of family members who traveled back to England in the 1800's to visit long-lost family and do further research.
Alan Buckingham
208 W Main St
Newark, DE 19711
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Sharen, Alan & all,
I'm afraid I don't have much after the children of Joseph Gilpin & Hannah Glover. However, I do have information on the Gilpin family prior to Joseph, Sr. Alan, I have the Gilpin line back to Richard de Gylpyn, b. abt. 1150. The following is from the book, "The Ancestry of Allen Grinnell Cleaver and Martha Irene Jessup - 172 Allied Families -"
Gilpin (de Gylpyn) Pedigree
Pages 973-975
William Jessup Cleaver 1989
The newspaper I have corroborates much of this.
GILPIN (de GYLPYN) PEDIGREE
The name is apparently of Norman origin derived from DeGaylpyn, an estate in Normandy, but Rev. Charles Machell, Chaplain to King Charles II says Gilpins were Scottish. Accounts of the family appear in Memorials and Reminisciences of the Gilpin Family in England and America, Henry D. Gilpin (Attorney General of the United States), 1852, and in the Family of Gideon Gilpin, Joseph Elliott Gilpin, 1897, both of which draw upon a manuscript Memoirs of Dr. Richard Gilpin, of Scalesby Castle, Cumberland, Rev. William Gilpin, Vicar of Boldre, 1791. Joseph Elliott Gilpin uses this note in 1897 to defend the pedigree:
'The pedigree which professes to go back for twenty generations, may well, in those days of spurious pretentions, be regarded with distrust; but although every genealogist is aware that errors unavoidably creep into the most careful compilations, I venture for the following reasons, to claim that an unusual reliance, considering it’s early commencement, may be placed on the roll of names previous to the fifteenth century. This pedigree appears to be based on the researches of, at least, two early members of the family, but especially of George Gilpin, nephew of the Ambassador to the Hague. It was again, about the end of the 16th century, the subject of careful research by Sir Daniel Fleming, noted for his special investigations, but more particularly his genealogical researches into the history of Westmoreland. Shortly after this, Alan Chambre, Recorder of Kendal, (who when he presented his own pedigree to the College of Arms, was complimented by the Heralds for its f!
ullness of details) extended his inquiries into the antquity of the Gilpin family. This pedigree has been collated not only with an original manuscript of Sir Daniel Fleming’s Pedigees, but also with the genealogical collections at Scaleby Castle. Sir Daniel Fleming’s Collection of Pedigrees was written in 1713.
Richard de Gylpyn was granted the Manor of Kentmere in Westmorland County about 1206 by the Baron of Kendall, in the reign of King John. The grant was said to have been made as compensation for the slaying of a fierce wild boar which had done great damage in the valleys of Westmoreland and Cumberland. The wild boar was thus taken as the basis for the arms that the family used thereafter:
(Or, a boar statant sable, langued and tusked gules) with a crest, “A dextor arm emboyed, in armour proper, the naked hand grasping an olive branch fesswise vert” (sometimes a srig of pine) with motto 'Dictis factisque simplex'
A Kentmere Hall dating in the fourteenth century was still standing at the foot of the heights of Ragmoor at the turn of this century. The family lost possession of it with the ascendency of Cromwell. A description of the confrontation of King John and the Barons at Runnemede, notes that King John could not read or write, nor could the Barons, nor could most of the Knights. An exception was 'the noted Richard de Gilpin, the scholar.' He had accompanied the Baron of Kendal, Ivo de Talboys, as secretary and Advisor. There is an old poem praising the winning of arms without battle bloodshed:
Bert de Gylpyn, drew of Normandie
From Walchelin his gentle blood;
Who haply heard by Bewley’s sea,
The Angevins bugles in the wood.
His crest, the rebus of his name
A pineapple-a pine of gold,
Was it his Norm shield.
Sincere in word and deed, his fame extolled.
But Richard having killed the boar
With crested arm an olive shook
And sable boar on field of Or
For impresse on his shield he took,
And well he won his honest arms,
And well he won his Kentmere lands,
He won them not in wars alarums,
Nor dipt in human blood his hands.
There is also said to be a Gilpin connection to Alfred the Great (849-901) and Charlesmagne (Apr. 2, 742 - Jan. 28, 813/14) through the parents of Prince John "of Gaunt" Plantagenet, b. Jun. 24, 1340. John's father, Edward III Plantagenet, King of England, leads back to Alfred the Great and John's mother, Queen Phillippa of Hainault, leads to Charlesmagne. I have the Gilpin line to John "of Gaunt", but I'm not sure of the accuracy so I won't copy it here at this time.
I am interested in the articles you both mentioned and I would be happy to exchange material. Alan, I'll need your address. My snail-mail is:
Bob Cooke
4062 Adam Road
Simi Valley, CA. 93063
I will send off copies of the newspaper this weekend.
Bob Cooke
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