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Subject: [Q-R] Descendants of John Edmundson
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:35:17 EDT

Dear Mr. Hamm,
Perhaps you can help steer me in the right direction. I have been
searching high and low for information on William Edmundson (1627-1712)
descendants. I have also wondered what happened to his brothers who also
removed to Ireland, and their descendants. I have managed to obtain a copy of
the second edition of William's journal through a cousin. I am rereading it
to obtain any more clues to the family history. I have been unable to find
anything in Irish records for the boys due to the fire that destroyed the
records. Here is what I do have on them, I have not been able to verify
anything past Parish records in Crosby Garrett, Westmorland, England.
John Edmundson was born 1578, died 1635 in Little Musgrave, Westmorland,
England. His wife, Grace Ashton/Clibourne was born 1582 and died 1632 in
Little Musgrave. All their children were christened at St. Andrew's Church,
Crosby Garrett, Westmorland, England.
1. Ellinor born 1616.
2. Dorothy born 1617.
3. Thomas born 1619, died in Ireland. He married a woman named Ann, and had
a daughter, Grace.
4. Edward born 1621, died in Ireland.
5. John born 1625, died 1709 in Timahoe, Laois, Ireland. He married Judith
Chute. Their children: Thomas, Judith who married Francis Mann, and Lionel
Chute.
6. William born 1627, died 1712 near Rosenallis, Laois, Ireland. He married
twice, secondly to a Mary Strangman, a widow of Joshua. Just a note here that
suggests that she may have been married previously to Joshua. His first wife,
mother of his children was Margaret Stanford/Staniforth, daughter of Thomas
Staniforth and Franses Houseman. Margaret was born in 1652 in Bramley, Derby,
England and died 1691 in Dublin, Ireland at the home of her daughter and
son-in-law. Their children are:
1. Mary born 1653 in Antrim, Ireland. She married William Fayle.
2. William born 1655 in Lurgan, Antrim, Ireland, who left the Society of
Friends.
3. Samuel born 1658/1659 in Tineal, Laois, Ireland and died 1719 in Dublin,
Ireland. He married Maria, surname is possibly Worthington.
4. Hindrance born 1662 in Tineal, Tineal, Ireland. She married John Seale.
5. Anna born 1669, Tineal, Ireland. She married Lawrence Moore.
6. Tryal born 1671/1672 in Tineal, Laois, Ireland and died 1722. He married
Abigail Johnson.
I have many questions about William's harsh Uncle, who got guardianship
of the children after the death of their father, John.
I have been working on finding descendants of the Edmundson family as
well as some of the cousins who were in England. In William's journal, he
mentions visiting Mallerstang in 1701 and staying at the home of his cousin,
Thomas Cleasby. I am at sixes and sevens, trying to figure out the parentage
of this man. William's journal has no clues that I have seen so far.
William's brother, Thomas, was a merchant ship owner with his nephew,
Samuel. It is rumored that descendants of Samuel's ended up in Barbados.
I also found something very curious about William's brother, John. It
has been said that John was the same John Edmondson, a wealthy Quaker planter
who resided in Talbot County, Maryland as early as 1660. I found something
that says that this cannot be correct for as late as 1679 John suffered
persecution in County Queen's, Ireland, to which he had removed with his
brother William. This is from "A Great Cry of Oppression" p245 Stockdale;
Rutty, 345; Besse II, 466. 468.
Then a curious note about William's brother, Thomas, from Scotch-Irish
Settlers in America, 1500-1800s Immigration Records The Scotch-Irish, Volume
1, Chapter XII, Who are the Scotch-Irish? Page 168.
"settlement, the royal borough of Coleraine, the cathedral city of Armagh,
the battle-swept Enniskillen, and several towns and hamlets along the winding
Bann. Among these English settlers were not a few who were ancient followers
of George Fox, that man which in many respects was Cromwell's equal, and in
some his master; these Friends came with a man of great force of character,
Thomas Edmundson, who bore arms for the Parliment, and has left behind him a
singularly interesting diary. The Friends came to Antrim in 1652, and settled
in Antrim and Down; hence come the Pims, the Barclays, the Grubbs and
Richardsons, with many other goodly name of Ulster. The name of this Irish
province was spreading over Europe by the second decade of the 17th century
as the "shelter of the hunted"; and soon the Puritan and the Quaker are
joined in Ulster by another nobleman of God's making---the Huguenot from
France. Headed by Louis Crommellin, they came a little later and settled in
and around Lisburn founding many of the finest industries of Ulster, and
giving mighty impulse to those already started. And still later, following
the "immortal William" came some brave burghers from Holland and Netherlands.
Thus Ulster became a gathering ground for the very finest, most formative,
impulsive, and aggressive of the free, enlightened, God-fearing peoples of
Europe"---J.S. McIntosh, "The Making of the Ulsterman: Scotch-Irish Society
of America Proceedings, Volume 2, pp 98, 99.
Does anyone know if Thomas in fact has a journal that was left behind,
or are they referring to William's?
On a website, there are a number of references made by a descendant of
Tryal Edmundson, Joshua William Edmundson. Does anyone know if he is still
with us, or any of his descendants. Perhaps someone knows something that will
help to clear up my questions on our elusive ancestors. Any help or ideas
from anyone are greatly appreciated.
Debbie Callison

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