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From: "Leslie Hope" <>
Subject: RE: [Q-R] GRUBB, RICH
Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 10:47:50 -0700
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I too am a descendant of John Grubb m. Frances Vane thru Charity Grubb m.
Richard Beeson thru Benjamin Beeson m. Elizabeth Hunter. I have a booklet
provided by David N. Grubb, Ancestors of John Grubb (1652-1708). He gives
this lineage for John Grubb>Henry Grubb b. 1617 m. Wilmot (he also had a
previous wife Margaret Facie with whom he may have had one of his eight
known children)>Henry Grubb the younger (1581-1645) m.unknown second
wife>Thomas Grubb (c. 1540-1616). He says that confusion has arisen because
Thomas, John's ggrandfather, named two of his sons Henry. David Grubb'
booklet includes wills, baptismal and court records and other documentation.
For instance, he says that John Grubb's father, Henry Grubb signed the
Protestation against Popery in 1641 and was listed as a tenant farmer in
Stoke Climsland (Cornwall) during the 1580 survey. He was a butcher. In the
mid- 1650s, he became one of the earliest Quakers in Cornwall. He had at
least three run-ins with the law after the restoration of the Rev. William
Pike to the Stoke Climsland parish. On Nov. 11, 1662, he was arrested and
imprisioned briefly for non-payment of the tithe. The next year during Lent,
one of Henry's sone was arrested in Saltash, just west of Plymouth for
selling meat. In January 1663/4, Henry was arrested again and imprisioned in
Trematon Cassssssstle for several years for non-payment of his tithe. As a
result he lost the lease on his land and probably died within several years
of his release. His will did not survive. Wilmot remained in Stoke Climsland
with her oldest survivng son Anthony and his family. She was buried in a
field and her death was entered into the parish register on September 30,
1698. Children of Henry and Wilmot Grubb are listed as
Peter Grubb ( a butcher, d. unmarried in his early 20s)
Anthony Grubb ( a Quaker)
Richard Grubb (d. young)
Henry Grubb III (came to America on same ship as John)
John Grubb (tanner, founded the Delaware Grubb family)
Robert Grubb
Johan (Joane) Grubb (signed Henry's death certificate in London)
David Grubb

If anyone is interested in obtaining this booklet, please contact me
privately and I'll see if I can put you in contact with the researcher,
David N. Grubb of Ridgewood, NJ.
Leslie Hoag Hope

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This is in response to a mailing to Quaker-Roots dated 09/14/2002 from Jim
Peacock. He requests advice as to whether his data is accurate concerning:
Elizabeth Grubb was born 12 Aug 1691 in Burlington, N.J. and died before
1730.
She married Joseph Rich 1715 in Nottingham, Chester, PA, son of William
Rich and Elizabeth. --- Her parents were Henry Grubb b. April 20, 1653
in Stoke Climsland, Cornwall, England, and his wife, Mary Perkins.----
Henry's parents were Henry Grubb, b. 1617 in Stoke Climsland, Cornwall,
England. He married Willmott.

Although I am far away from reference sources, except what I can find on the
internet, and cannot confirm Jim's particular data items, I might be able to
do a little in filling in the larger picture. It so happens that I am a
Grubb family descendant, although perhaps not a descendant of this
particular
family.

John Grubb was an early immigrant to southern New Jersey, being a passenger
on the ship "Kent" which arrived at Salem and then at Burlington in 1677,
bearing a number of passengers, predominantly Quaker. ----- John Grubb soon
found his way to what became the Pennsylvania side of the Delaware River and
seems to have first located at Upland, which later became known as Chester.
As time went on, his business interests seem to have drawn him farther down
the banks of the Delaware, below Marcus Hook to a place called "Grubbs
Landing" within the bounds of Brandywine Hundred, New Castle County, in the
State of Delaware.

John Grubb married, probably after coming to the New World, a lady named
Frances Vane, who may have been born in County Kent, England. There seem to
be records that John and Frances had nine children. John Grubb died in
March
1708, and Frances soon married again, to Richard Buffington, who had been a
close friend of John Grubb. Frances (Vane) (Grubb) Buffington seems to have
died ca. 1712.

John Grubb seems not to have been a member of Friends, but a friend of the
Friends.
As I recall, his name can be found among lists of witnesses on Friends
marriage certificates. John Grubb is said to have been buried in the
churchyard of the Episcopal Church at Marcus Hook, PA.

On 24 of 10 mo. 1706, Charity Grubb, daughter of John and Frances (Vane)
Grubb, married Richard Beeson, son of Edward and Rachel (Pennington) Beeson.
I do not know where the marriage occurred, but it was probably not under the
care of Friends.
I am a descendant of Richard and Charity (Grubb) Beeson, by way of their
daughter, Charity Beeson, who married Mordecai Mendenhall.

Little is known concerning Rachel Pennington, wife of Edward Beeson and
mother of Richard Beeson. There is a record that Edward Beeson and Rachel
Pennington were married in 1682 in the Parish of Thrussington in
Leicestershire, England. It has been fairly well established that Rachel
Pennington was not a daughter of the noted early Quaker, Isaac Pennington.

About 1700 the Edward Beeson family was living in the Shelpot Creek area of
Brandywine Hundred, New Castle County, Delaware, an area now included in the
northeast extension of the city of Wilmington, DE. However, records have
been found that in 1703 Edward Beeson acquired ownership of one of the
Nottingham Lots. The Nottingham Lots consisted of a tract of land in far
southwest Chester County, PA, now stretching south across the Maryland
border. William Penn had authorized the platting and sale of the Nottingham
Lots as a Quaker settlement to strengthen Penn's title to the area, which
was
being contested by the Calvert family, proprietors of Maryland.----- Edward
Beeson acquired a piece of land on the northwest corner of the Nottingham
Lots and probably moved there shortly after he acquired ownership.

Rachel (Pennington) Beeson having died, Edward Beeson married again,
probably
about 1710. His new wife's name is listed as Elizabeth Holmes or Elizabeth
Grubb in the older genealogies. Edward Beeson drafted a will in August,
1712,
when he had become ill, listing four children by his former wife, and a
daughter Elizabeth by his present wife, and another unborn child expected.
The will does not mention the name of his present wife. Edward Beeson died
20 October 1712, and his will is on file with Chester County, PA wills at
Westchester, PA.

It is believed that Edward Beeson's surviving wife was the Elizabeth who
married ca. 1715 Joseph Rich. Elizabeth had two daughters by her marriage
to Edward Beeson: Elizabeth Beeson, who married John Everett, and Rachel
Beeson, who married Richard Brown, son of William Brown and Ann
Mercer.------
By her marriage to Joseph Rich, some sources indicate that Elizabeth had
three sons Peter Rich, John Rich, and Joseph Rich.

Some sources indicate that Elizabeth Grubb, daughter of Henry Grubb and Mary
Perkins, married 1st _____ Holmes. She married 2nd Edward Beeson. She
married 3rd Joseph Rich.

It seems a coincidence that Richard Beeson, son of Edward Beeson, should
marry Charity Grubb, and then that some four years later, Edward Beeson, the
father, should marry Elizabeth Grubb. There is an indication that the two
ladies must have been somehow related.

Early genealogists of the nineteenth century endeavored to link John Grubb,
the immigrant on the "Kent" with Henry and Willmott (or Wellmet) Grubb of
New
Jersey. However, by the early twentieth century, it seems to have been
determined that John Grubb, the immigrant, was a son of John Grubb
(1610-1667) and Helen Vivian. This John Grubb was a royalist and adherent
to
the Church of England during the time of Cromwell. The Grubb family seems
to
have been centered in the vicinity of Devizes in Wiltshire, England, but
perhaps fled to Cornwall during a time of persecution by the Puritan
faction.----- John Grubb, father of John the immigrant, was a son of Thomas
Grubb, b. 1581 in Potterns, Devizes, Wiltshire. He became a Rector at
Cranfield, Bedfordshire. This Thomas was a son of Thomas Grubbe, d. 2 Feb.
1617, of Potterne, Devizes, Wiltshire. The elder Thomas Grubbe was a son of
Henry Grubbe, died 1581. Henry Grubbe, Esq. was elected a member of
Parliament for Devises, Wiltshire, England in the reign of Queen Elizabeth
(1571).

This latter data of Grubb ancestry is taken from "Colonial and Revolutionary
Families of Pennsylvania," Wilfred Jordan, Editor (New York: Lewis
Historical
Publishing Co., Inc., 1934), Vol. V, pages 727-728.

It may well be, that the Henry Grubb family in New Jersey and the John Grubb
family across the Delaware River in Pennsylvania and Delaware, recognized
that they were related in some way and kept in touch, so that Edward Beeson
might have met Elizabeth Beeson from New Jersey at the wedding of his son
Richard to Charity Beeson of Delaware.

This family history is so hazy, and I cannot point to many original source
references, but perhaps this rambling discourse will help put things in
perspective.

------- Herbert Standing.


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