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From: Bev Jones <>
Subject: [Q-R] Re: QUAKER-ROOTS-D Digest V03 #302
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 05:55:25 -0500
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Wanda

I am connected to a Mary Worthington burn 1756 in Bucks County, PA
Mary married Matthew Wood in 1771 at Wrightstown MM in PA.

Mary Worthington father was Richard Worthington born abt 1725 in PA.

Is there a connection to your Worthignton.

Thank you
Bev Jones

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>QUAKER-ROOTS-D DigestVolume 03 : Issue 302
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>Today's Topics:
> #1 [Q-R] English Quakers ["Vanessa Williams" <vanessawilliam]
> #2 [Q-R] Katharine Hepburn's Quaker R ["Christie Russell" <]
> #3 Re: [Q-R] Katharine Hepburn's Quak ["Wanda VanderVeen" <]
> #4 [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681 [Mark <>]
> #5 Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. ["Suze" <>]
> #6 [Q-R] Elizabeth Worthing Janney ["Christie Russell" <]
> #7 Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. []
> #8 Re: [Q-R] Elizabeth Worthing Janne ["Wanda VanderVeen" <]
> #9 Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. [K McGee <>]
> #10 Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. [Gregory McReynolds <quillcottage@e]
> #11 Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. []
> #12 Re: [Q-R] Common Names (was "Marty ["Chris Dickinson" <]
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> Subject:
> [Q-R] English Quakers
> From:
> "Vanessa Williams" <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:29:06 +0100
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>Hello Listers,
>Is there a definitive list for people researching Quaker families
>throughout England in the 18th and 19th Centuries?
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> Subject:
> [Q-R] Katharine Hepburn's Quaker Roots
> From:
> "Christie Russell" <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:32:45 -0500
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>With the passing of Legendary Film and Stage actress, Katharine Hepburn
>[1907-2003], it may be of interest to some on this list that she was a
>9th generation descendant of Quakers, Thomas and Margery (Heath) Janney
>who emigrated from Cheshire, England to Bucks Co., PA in 1683. Thomas
>Janney was a yeoman farmer of the "Midlands" and lived near Styall,
>Wilmslow Parish, Cheshire.
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>Thomas Janney and his first cousin, Mary Janney and her husband, John
>Bancroft, are said to have been converted to the Doctrines of the
>Society of Friends by George Fox, by his first sermon preached in
>Cheshire at the Market Cross in Stockport in 1654. Thomas was 21 years
>old. He was imprisoned for two months in 1665 for attending a Quaker
>meeting hear his home. He had goods distrained for refusing to pay
>tithes on at least nine occasions. He was a Minister of the Quaker
>faith, published religious papers and traveled extensively in England,
>Ireland, and America.
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>Thomas Janney corresponded with William Penn. A letter from Penn to
>Thomas Janney in October 1681 [the original is at the Historical Society
>of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia] reads, in part:
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>"Many whose eyes & minds are tow much abroad may imagin & talke, but
>thats little to me. I shall not I thinke go till next spring; but a ship
>goes soon next month: & those yt desire to have their land lye in ye
>best places & be laid out wth ye first must deal before yt ship &
>comissionrs goes, wch may be by ye 1st of next month so if any there
>away desire to have land wth me, they must write to me what & how much &
>I will have ye deeds prpared at Thomas Ruddyards whithr if they send
>their money they may have it as ye rest have."
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>Thomas Janney's mother, Elizabeth Worthington, died in 1677, and his
>father, Thomas Janney, in 1682. Two of his wife's sisters and their
>husbands, Ann Heath and James Harrison and Jane Heath and William
>Yardley, and other relatives had already emigrated to Pennsylvania.
>Thomas initially purchased 550 acres from Penn and moved his family to
>Bucks Co. The Janneys took Passage on the ship "Endeavor" from London
>and arrived at the Delaware River 19 September 1683. Thomas Janney was
>elected to a 4-year term on the Provincial Council in 1684, and was also
>a justice of the peace for six years.
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>He continued in America the Quaker ministry that he had begun in
>England. In 1690 he donated 72 acres of land to be used as the Quaker
>burial grounds for Falls Monthly Meeting at Fallsington, Bucks Co., the
>first MM organized in Pennsylvania. The meeting house there was built
>in 1693. Thomas continued to publish papers in the interest of Friends
>and corresponded with his sister, Martha [Janney] Burgess who remained
>in Pownall Fee, Cheshire and with other Quakers.
>
>
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>He returned to England in 1695 as a Quaker Minister. He traveled
>England for nearly two years meeting with Friends. He became ill, and
>died at the home of his sister, Martha (Janney) Burgess, in 1697, just
>two or three months before he planned to return to Pennsylvania. He was
>buried in the old Quaker Cemetery at Mobberly in Cheshire.
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>Christie Russell
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] Katharine Hepburn's Quaker Roots
> From:
> "Wanda VanderVeen" <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:25:18 -0400
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>>Thomas Janney's mother, Elizabeth Worthington, died in 1677, and his
>>father, Thomas Janney, in 1682.
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>Do we have any idea who Elizabeth's parents were?
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>Wanda
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> Subject:
> [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681) of Dartmouth, Mass., and Chester
> County, PA
> From:
> Mark <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:27:03 -0700 (PDT)
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>Hi, group
>
>I'm doing a little research on John Smith (b. 1681,
>Dartmouth, Mass.) who later moved to Kennett Township,
>Chester County, PA -- and wonder whether anyone on
>this list is (1) descended from him or (2) familiar
>with his family.
>
>Smith is best known, to me at least, for an account he
>left that was published in 1800 (if not before) as "A
>Narrative of Some Sufferings for his Christian
>Peaceable Testimony by John Smith, late of Chester
>County, deceased."
>
>Briefly, it describes how he refused to be drafted
>into the military on two separate occasions (in 1703
>and 1705) and the abuse he endured for this. After
>his final release, he came to Pennsylvania and settled
>in Chester County.
>
>The brochure doesn't name his parents, though it says
>they "professed the truth in the latter years." (I
>interpret this to mean that the elder Smiths became
>Quakers late in life.)
>
>I don't know for a fact that he even married. If he
>did, I'd like to know to whom, other events of his
>life, where (specifically) he lived and when he died.
>The usual biographical information. And if anything
>else was published about his experience(s), I'd
>appreciate a clue about that, too.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Mark
>
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681) of Dartmouth, Mass., and
> Chester County, PA
> From:
> "Suze" <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:03:22 -0500
> To:
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>I have nothing fewer than 18 John Smiths, one who is found 1715 in Essex, Mass. The rest are found in NH and Me. Don't know if that helps you or not.
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>BTW, congratulations on having one of those wonderfully common ancestral names! I thought I was going nuts on John Berry.....but I do believe John Smith might be a tad worse! BG
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>Suze
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> Subject:
> [Q-R] Elizabeth Worthing Janney
> From:
> "Christie Russell" <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:13:26 -0500
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>I have not pursued the Worthington line to confirm the information sent
>to me by Iris Grimmett of Sweet Home, Oregon in 1998. She states that
>she used various sources including the Wilmslow Parish Records. Her
>ahnentafel for Elizabeth Worthington shows Elizabeth's parents to be
>Robert Worthington and Ann ? m. 6 Oct 1596, Cheshire, England. The
>father of Robert was either John or Hugh Worthington.
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>---------------------------snip-------------------------
>Do we have any idea who Elizabeth's parents were?
>
>Wanda
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681) of Dartmouth, Mass., and
> Chester Coun...
> From:
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> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:04:10 EDT
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>Dear Mark - I have an old book called
>American Memorials: A Collection of Memorials Concerning Divers deceased
>Peolpe called Quakers, In Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Parts adjacent, from
>nearly the first Settlement thereof to the Year 1787. Published 1788.
>
>In the book there is a section entitled -
>A Testimony from New-Garden Monthly Meeting in Pennsylvania, concerning John
>Smith.
>
>Born Dartmouth 3 - 4 month 1681. It seemed at the age of 24 he travelled to
>England but was press-ganged into the navy and underwent hardship for refusing
>to fight. He then went on to Pennsylvania and lived to an old age.
>Derek Timlett
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] Elizabeth Worthing Janney
> From:
> "Wanda VanderVeen" <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:06:45 -0400
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>>I have not pursued the Worthington line to confirm the information sent
>>to me by Iris Grimmett of Sweet Home, Oregon in 1998. She states that
>>she used various sources including the Wilmslow Parish Records. Her
>>ahnentafel for Elizabeth Worthington shows Elizabeth's parents to be
>>Robert Worthington and Ann ? m. 6 Oct 1596, Cheshire, England. The
>>father of Robert was either John or Hugh Worthington.
>>
>>
>
>Thank you. Every little bit helps and this gives me a place to start.
>
>Wanda Worthington VanderVeen
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681) of Dartmouth, Mass., and
> Chester Co....
> From:
> K McGee <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:17:52 -0700
> To:
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> Derek,
> Were any children or family members mentioned?
> Thank you,
> K McGee
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> At 05:04 PM 6/30/2003 -0400, you wrote:
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>> Dear Mark - I have an old book called
>> American Memorials: A Collection of Memorials Concerning Divers deceased
>> Peolpe called Quakers, In Pennsylvania, New Jersey, and Parts
>> adjacent, from
>> nearly the first Settlement thereof to the Year 1787. Published 1788.
>>
>> In the book there is a section entitled -
>> A Testimony from New-Garden Monthly Meeting in Pennsylvania,
>> concerning John
>> Smith.
>>
>> Born Dartmouth 3 - 4 month 1681. It seemed at the age of 24 he
>> travelled to
>> England but was press-ganged into the navy and underwent hardship for
>> refusing
>> to fight. He then went on to Pennsylvania and lived to an old age.
>> Derek Timlett
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681) of Dartmouth, Mass., and
> Chester County, PA
> From:
> Gregory McReynolds <>
> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 15:21:22 -0700
> To:
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>I have the following notes on John Smith:
>
>EUR John Smith suffered fines and imprisonment in Massachusetts for
>refusing military duty. Forced aboard ship as a sailor to England. He
>returned to America in 1705. Settled first at Philadelphia then Chester
>Co., Pa. Memorials have periodically been written of him.
>
>EUR He married first Ann, daughter of Caleb Pusey, on 5 March 1706/7. In
>1713 he moved to East Marlborough where the Society of Friends held
>meetings in his home, this later became the Londongrove Meeting. He
>married second, 6 August 1726 Dorothy Windle.
>
>EUR He was an elder and founder of Londongrove Meeting.
>
>I descend from his second wife Dorothy Windle, by whom he had five children.
>
>Hope this helps,
>Gregory McReynolds
>Pasadena, California
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] "Martyr" John Smith (b. 1681) of Dartmouth, Mass., and
> Chester Co....
> From:
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> Date:
> Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:36:08 EDT
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>Dear Mark -
>
>Its 11.30pm here and I've locked the book away. However, I'll have a look in
>the the morning and try to put a family tree together from the information I
>have. I'll also have a look through other books in our library.
>
>John Smith appears to have been a "weighty ffriend" in his time, so there
>must be more information about him.
>Derek
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> Subject:
> Re: [Q-R] Common Names (was "Martyr" John Smith)
> From:
> "Chris Dickinson" <>
> Date:
> Tue, 1 Jul 2003 00:02:37 +0100
> To:
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>Well, yes, having a Smith in the family tree doesn't help!
>
>BUT don't forget that Smith is common because it was an occupational name
>used all over the place (the other possibility - that Smiths, being strong,
>well endowed with manorial assets, and working by necessity in dimly lit,
>warm and intimate surroundings, simply had more children than Fletchers,
>Bowmans and Millers - I leave to your imagination). Go into the micro
>environment and suddenly Smith isn't the big problem.
>
>Take, for instance, the area that I research in the UK. This has relatively
>(so to speak) few Smiths - but lots and lots and lots of patronymic names
>like Jackson and Harrison. Get a John Jackson in your ancestral tree and you
>are in trouble.
>
>I'd guess that the same sort of saturation problem happens with Quaker
>families. There is a much smaller pool of surnames than in the big wide
>world, and presumably more incidence of people with the same name.
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>
>Chris
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