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From: John Helmut Merz <>
Subject: [QUEBEC-L] Re: Simon Pipe, Hessian?
Date: Wed, 05 May 1999 10:08:54 -0700
Robert E. Chenard wrote: mailto:
>
> Dear John and Frank,
>
> Thank you very much for your prompt and informative responses. This
> Simon Boebe/Bobe might very well be my Simon Pipe. The
> French-Canadians most likely corrupted his name much as they did many
> of the non-French names. My Irish great-great-grandmother, Mary
> Murphy, was written into the marriage register as Marie Morphie when
> she married my French great-great-grandfather, Joseph Fortin.
>
> Here is more information on Simon Pipe:
> Simon Pipe and Judith Minoues had the following children who were
> married in Quebec province:
> Christine Pipe b. ca. 1790 married 7 Jan 1820 at Rimouski to
> Jean-Baptiste Vignola
> Catherine Pipe b. ca. 1800 married 11 Aug 1820 at Rimouski to Marc
> Labrie
> Simon Pipe b. ca. 1802 married 18 Feb 1822 at Matane to
> Marguerite-Celeste Chasse
> Anne Pipe b. ca. 1805 married 4 Oct 1825 at Matane to Lazare Barras
> dit Lecours
> Joseph Pipe b. ca. 1810 married 17 Feb 1835 at Rimouski to Julie Cote
>
> It is fairly well established by descendants of the Durette family who
> had personal knowledge of Tatienne Pipe, daughter of Joseph Pipe and
> Julie Cote, whom she married Joseph G. Durette in 1871 in Matane, was
> of Native American stock and even looked Indian. However, if Simon was
> of German ancestry, that part of the family history was evidently lost
> or, perhaps, not mentioned to family members in the next generations
> even if known given the facts of WWI and WWII and the unpopularity of
> being German at that time.
>
> The marriage of Simon Pipe to Judith Minoues is evidently lost. Simon
> was probably born about 1760 and Judith about 1770 (a guess on my
> part). Census records in Matana would probably shed some light on
> their ages.
>
> I am forwarding this correspondence to my cousin in Wilmington, Mass.
> for his information. If you find more information which might
> positively confirm Simon Pipe to be Simon Boebe or where he was from,
> we would both be very grateful.
>
> Sincere thanks,
>
> Bob Chenard
> The French Connection
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> John Helmut Merz wrote:
> Subject: Re: [QUEBEC-L] Re: Simon Pipe, Hessian?
> Dear Frank, you are absolutely right in your assumption that
> this Simon Pipe could also be the Brunswick soldier Simon
> Boebe/Bobe who was discharged in Quebec in 1783, same as the one
> soldier I mentioned.
> Here we have the exact circumstances as with Johann Pape, a
> discharge
> date from the Brunswick troops, a place of birth and his
> appr. age,
> but no other information. Simon Boebe was appr. 27-28 years
> of age
> when he was discharged, also somewhat younger than Pape.
> Regards, John.
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