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From: O Eugene Queen <>
Subject: [QUEEN] William Lewis, Sr....Children - Haywood Co., NC
Date: Sun, 02 Jul 2000 14:54:21 -0400
I've never been bashful about turning left when everyone else turns
right or going down a road where others choose not to trod. But, y'all
know that. So, what's new? I also know how to get back on the trail
with others, when evidence points me in that direction.
Recent evidence now leads me to the same conclusion others reached years
ago; that the Joseph Queen of the 1830 Haywood County, NC census was
probably the younger man in the household...and the older man was
probably William Lewis Queen, Sr. I have absolutely no clue regarding
the identification of the older woman.
The evidence known to me seems to suggest that Joseph Queen came to
Haywood County (date unknown) and by the 1830 census was living beside
Samuel Queen (not Dicey's husband). Perhaps these two Queens were
living in or near the Wayehutta Creek area, just "outside" the Caney
Fork area; and on the Haywood County side of the Tuckesegee River. By
1832 Joseph appears to have moved, with his dad, across the Tuckesegee
River into Macon County where, on October 8, 1832, Wm Queen, Sr.
appeared in Macon County Court and applied for a pension.
Further, it appears probable that he was the same Joseph Queen who's
name appears in the "Culliwhee Election Precinct" of Macon County in
1835. More research will prove, I hope, that the Cullowhee Creek (and
Bryson Branch near Speedwell which feeds into it) areas were included in
It is believed that this is the Joseph Queen whose name next appears on
the 1840 Census of Habersham County, GA. A Samuel Queen's name also
appears on that census. Old news? Okay.
Next, what about the Samuel Queen who was in Haywood at least by Jan
1820, was on the 1820 census and on the 1830 census with Joseph Queen
(and probably Wm. Sr.) living next door? This Samuel has largely been
ignored by researchers, including one who at last report refused to
acknowledge his existence. Since, from my perspective, his existence no
longer poses a "threat" to any research concerning Joseph and Wm. Lewis
Queen, Sr., perhaps we can bring him out of the closet, consider various
possibilities and open some new doors for some who are at "brick walls"
with their line.
Was this Samuel a brother to Joseph and a son of Wm. Queen, Sr.? I do
not know. Did this Samuel provide support and housing for his brother,
Joseph, and father in 1830? Again, I do not know. But, I cannot
mentally accept a theory which suggests that it was an accident that
Joseph and Wm. were next-door neighbors to Samuel in 1830....and
apparently some distance from Caney Fork and Johns Creek.
I would also like to re-visit the question of the identity of the
parties in the 1816 Haywood County marriage: Timothey Queen to Mary Ann
State (or Slate?) on 12-4-1816 with a Saml. x Queen as bondsman.
Why should anyone but me be interested in this Samuel Queen (b. ca
1776-1780)? Because he had lots of children, with only two tentatively
identified. Further, we know that he was the only Queen male on the
1820 Haywood census. He was one of the first Queens in Haywood County.
The 1820 census lists the following:
Male, 26<44 (Samuel, the birth year has been narrowed to 1776-1780)
Female, 26<44 (Probably wife of Samuel)
.........................(Possibly other child or children between 1798
Female 16<25 (Unidentified, born ca 1795-1804)
Male 16<18 (Unidentified, born ca 1802-1804)
Female 10<15 (Unidentified born ca 1805-1810)
Male 10<15 (Probably James H. Queen of 1808 who married Isabella
Male 10<15 (Probably Alfred of 1810 who married Mary Ann)
Male <10 (Unidentified, born ca 1810-1820)
Who were these unidentified Queens? Next: More Queens Into Haywood
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