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From: Richard O Carpenter< >
Subject: CARPENTER hits the wall !!!
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 1997 17:03:02 EST


General to All on Ran - Clay List

Hi you all...Richard here. I have been stuck on Thomas Carpenter for a
while now. He is ( or was ) the father of James Warren Carpenter. James
Warren married Sally Harlin (Harlen) in Henry County, Ga November 11,
1838. Sally's father was Zachariah Harlin and her mother was Judith
Wilkins .

James Warren and Sally had three boys who grew up in Clay County and
surrounding area. They were (1) Zachariah Thomas (2) James Warren Jr. and
(3) David Harlin Carpenter. Zachariah Thomas is my direct ancestor.

I am attaching a letter Sally wrote which was published in the Primitive
Baptist in 1911. In the letter she gives several excellent genealogical
facts ( as well as an excellent testimony ). she mentions moving from
Henry COunty to a place just over the Ga line and belonging to a church
which I suspect must be a Primitive Baptist Church named Bethlehem...does
anyone have any idea where this may be located?

Well before this gets out of hand I will attach the letter. Please write
if you want more information or have some to share. I have a good bit on
the three sons of James Warren and a little on Thomas...I am praying
someone else has a LOT on Thomas :-) Richard

Individual Summary - 19 Feb 1997
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Name:Mrs. Sally HARLEN
Sex:Female

Individual Facts
Birth1 Mar 1820 in Georgia
Death14 Jan 1914 in Lineville, Clay County, Ala. (age 93)
Baptism2nd Sunday Feb. 1848 in Lebanon Primitive Baptist Church,
Henry County, Ga.

Marriages/Children
1. Mr. James Warren CARPENTER Sr.
Marriage11 Nov 1838 in Georgia (age 18)
ChildrenMrs. Lydia Elizabeth CARPENTER (20 Oct 1839-5 Jun 1917)
Mrs. Mary Ann CARPENTER (28 May 1841-2 Feb 1878)
Mrs. Sarah Abigal CARPENTER (16 Dec 1842-)
Marthena CARPENTER (1 Jan 1844-27 Aug 1877)
Mrs. Mary Jane CARPENTER (13 Sep 1846-28 Oct 1905)
Mr. Zachariah Thomas CARPENTER (25 Jul 1848-10 Aug 1908)
Mr. David Harlin CARPENTER (10 Nov 1850-21 Feb 1921)
Ms. Emaly Caroline CARPENTER (30 May 1853-1 Oct 1868)
Mr. James Warren CARPENTER Jr. (30 May 1856-7 Aug 1913)

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The Peace

I have sat down to try to try to write a little for you all to read when
I am gone.

My maiden name was Sallie Harlen , My father's name was
Zachariah Harlen, and my mother's name was Juda Wilkins. I
was born in Georgia in Oglethorpe or Wilks, I can't say which.
was brought from there to Walton before I was five years old, and
from there to Henry County before I was six. I lived there until I
was grown . I was raised by a good widowed mother, my father
being killed in the move from Wilks to Walton, I married a good
man named Warren Carpenter in 11-11- 1838, in my nineteenth
year. In 1848 my dear husband and I joined the Primitive Baptist
Church and were baptized by Elder Allen Cleveland, the second
Sunday in February. It was a cold day, but to me it was the most
pleasant day I ever saw. That fall after we joined the church at
Lebanon we made our first move to from Henry County to
Alabama. We just got over the line and put our letters in
Bethlehem Church. We were in Alabama but the church was in
Georgia. We only stayed there two years, when we moved here,
in six miles of Macedonia, in 1850. I only had the pleasure of
living with my dear husband eighteen years and two months. He
left me with nine children - six girls and three boys. By the help
of the good Lord I raised them all to be grown , and then they
begin to die and leave me to mourn and I now have but four left.
But, oh, how good the heavenly Father is. He has held me up;
He never let me sink under. I am obliged to praise Him if He
takes all I have, for He does all things well. He gives and he has
the right to take when it pleases Him. I have my dear husband,
three daughters, one grandchild and my mother in one graveyard;
one daughter in a in another and one son in another. It seems
like I am staying here a long time. If I live until the first day of
March I will be ninety-one years old. My offspring is large. I now
have but four living children out of nine. Of my grandchildren
there are fifty-five; great-grandchildren, 174; great-great-
grandchildren, twenty-two; making in all 260. Of this number there
are, as near as I can count, thirty -six of them dead. My oldest
child is in her seventy-second year and is still able to come from
North Alabama to see me. My youngest is nearly fifty five years
old, and is the father of thirteen children.

I beg the prayers of all Christian people, that when I have stayed
my stay out here that I may be prepared to say: " Come,
welcome death; I will gladly go with thee." I know that within
myself I do nothing. I hope my loving Jesus will be near that I
may lean my head on His breast and breathe my life out sweetly
there, and waft my soul to that home where there will be no
sorrow nor sad farewells. Your sister in hope of a better world.

Ashland , Alabama Sallie
Carpenter

P. S. I have been a member at Macedonia sixty years this past
January, and I sometimes fear that I have deceived those good
people that I so much love and have permitted me to live with
them all this time. I had a big family, nearly all of whom have
passed away to that happy home, as I hope, and are at rest, and
I hope to meet them some sweet day, when we will all be the
same.

(JDC)/ This article was copied from the Tuesday, May 2,
1911 Edition of the Primitive Baptist.

Sources
1. Letter written by Sallie Harlen " Published in Primitive Baptist "
May 2, 1911.

Notes
Baptism1: From " Henry County Georgia The Mother of Counties " by
Vessie Thrasher Rainer

pg. 35 Historic Lebanon Primative Baptist Church at Hampton, organized
in 1824 survived until it was perpetuated by only three female members.
Mrs Fred Le Guin served as custodian.

In August of 1968, Mr. and Mrs. Fred G. Le Guin presented the
deed to the church property to Hampton Masonic Loge No. 70. the church
House was razed and a new Lodge Building is on this site.

pg. 209 Allen Cleveland was a Primitive Baptist minister for 60 years.
He is found on Court records serving as guardian for minor children. In
1854 he was guardian for the children of John Elliot.

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