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From: "Gail Harris" <>
Subject: [ROBERT-REV-PIERRE] Alexander Pinckney Roberts 1816-1855
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:30:45 -0500


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share with her...


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Subject: In Re the Pefigree of Alexander Pinckney Roberts 1816-1855


Gail, Hugh Adrian Sinclair, I have been actively trackng through all the
Roberts posting, trying to match what my over 60 years of searching and
family
tradition has given me and so am putting out this selected accumulation,
bcause
your remarks lead me to believe that you are the most likely to hae a clue
to
the missing key of my Research.

I am the daughter of Arthur Sidney Roberts b. Ga. 1890, lived in Indian
Territory, mar. in NYC after WWI and lived out his life there and in
suburban CT.
Sidney was the son of Francis Marion Roberts, b. Fl at Jacksonville in 1843,
fought in the Civil War, married Cynthia Anna Lenoir in Milton Go. GA and,
Cynthia being of Cherokee Blood, removed to and died in Indian Terr. in
1912.
Francis Marion was the son of Alexander Pinckney Roberts born 1816 in S.C.
and
died of Swamp Fever in 1855, leaving Amanda, Lucinda, Francis Marion, George
Washington, Zachariah Taylor, Eugenia, and Alexander Pitcairn Roberts. In
the
1850 Census of Jacksonville which I have been rereading, with greater
background lknowledge than I had the first time I saw it, I find that
Alexander's
adjacent neighbor is one Elias Gabriel Jaudon and wife Sarah Jane Harris.
Is
that your connection Gail? Another not too distant neighbor is Willoughby
Tucker. Is that your relative Hugh?

As I am now familiar with more of the Robert intermarriages I know of the
Jaudons and especially the connection to Robert through Elias gr.
grandmother
Elizabeth Robert, daughter of Jacque Robert and Judith Videau, and have been
reresearching my notes and off-prints trying to find more clues which I
believe
might support a cousinshi[p relationship between Elias and Alexander. The
e
state goods of Alexander include Coopers tools and Elias according to one
source,
managed one of the great Plantations in the Jacksonville area and I
therefore
assume that Alexander must have worked for him. Among the bills paid out
by
his Estate is a sum of $90 paid to one Henry Jodon for hire of negroes.
Not
far away is John A Jones with wife Mary A Jones who was in fact the widow of
James B. Roberts/Robarts, son of John Roberts Sr. of Jacksonville and one of
the Petitioners for the founding of Jacksonville in 1821, along with James
mcCormick, whose daughter Rosanna McCormick, was married to Alexander
Roberts in
1841, by the Rev. James MacDonald, Minister of the Gospel, famous Baptist
and Founding Missionary Minister to Florida, in Jacksonville. (Duval
Marriage
Records.) The Administrater of Alexander's Estate is one John
Roberts/Robarts
jr. He married Rosanna's older sister, Martha Ann McCormick. He also
Administers the Estate of James B. Roberts, in the early 1840's, and it is
his
widow who marries John A. Jones and is the Mary or Polly Ann Jones paid a
sum from
Alexander's Estate and has living with her a daughter of her first marriage,
Emilia Roberts. James B Roberts was given a Power of Attourney by John
Roberts Sr., in which he is designated as son to John Sr., to return to SC
and
claim what ever share there is due to John Sr. from his decd. Father's
Estate.
James dies before being able to make the trip and there is no record of
resolution to the proposed claim and the father of John Sr. is not named in
the
papers I received. John Sr. has a family and is evidently widowed in the
early or
mid 1820's for he married a second time and has an additional second family
of
many children. The children I have guessed at from local records, for the
probable first group of siblings include one Helen who marries a Summers and
an
Adline who marries John Price jr. Both the Price and Summers/Somers
families intermarried with the John Buttermilk Roberts group which are in
Alachua/Columbia/Baker/Bradford Cos. One Uriah, born in Fl. but not of
John's second
family, lives next to Alexander. The DAR papers of the daughter of
Zachariah
Taylor who had the family Bible, gave the name of Alexander's father as
Joseph
and said there was also a son Joseph jr. It was further given that Joseph
said to have been born about 1760 married Elizabeth "Betsy" Suggs about 1790
.
The only place in SC where the Census reveals Suggs and Roberts together is
in the Georgetown district and Horry Co. There there is a John, JohnJr.
Isaac. Joseph Roberts all on he same page with Suggs at thebegining of the
next
page. So i have been looking for my missing ancester there. When
Jean/John of
Colleton was in England allegedly putting his son in Medical studies he
bought a Barony of land which was said to have been in this district. He
supposedly gae a large piece of this to his son Abraham, i believe the one
who married
Elizabeth shepherd, though that appears not to really be her maiden name.
Supposedly that is her name by her seond marriage and she is said to have
mentioned ONLY one son by Abraham, in fact a John Abraham Roberts who I
believe
married Mary Lambright. I have seen their shldren and while they have a
James
he does not fit with the James B. of Florida, and there is no Joseph, so it
cannot be that John who is John Abraham, though he is said to have married
twice,
but the name of his wife and the second wife of John Senior do not match.
Is there a missing son here?

I have also another mystery. I had long been sure that Pierre, called Sr.
but n fact the jr., being the son of Rv. Pierre, had a son John. But the
listings on line stated that Pierre who married twice had only a son Pierre
third
by his first wife and Jacque or James de Bordeaux by second wife Judith
Videau. I have however, a long list of property sequential exchanges that
clearly
indicate begining with the identifying transfer of land from the Estate of
Pierre Sr. by agreement with John Gedron administator and Judith Videau,
conveying 193 acres of all Pierre's land at Cousa Island and 500 acres
elsewhere, to
George Chicken. You may perhaps recall that the third husband of Elizabeth
Robert Jaudon Chovin was named Chicken. The land is clearly identified as
being of the Estate of Pierre and Judith., AND IS BOUNDED ON THE NORTH BY
THE
SANTEE, EAST BY LAND OF PAUL D----, SOUTH BY LAND OF JOHN ROBERT AND WEST BY
LAND OF JAMES BOYD. AND THE LARGER TRACT IS BOUNDED SOUTH ON THE SANTEE WEST
ON
LAND OF JOHN BOYD AND NORTH BY OPEN LAND. THIS MEMORIAL DATED 28/29 FEB
1730. IN 1732 A JOHN ROBERT OF CRAVEN CO. CONVEYS TO GEORGE CHICKEN 93
ACRES
OF THE LAND AT COUSA ISLAND, BOUNDED NORTH BY LAND OF PIERRE ROBERTS (PIERRE
THIRD?) AND JOHN BOYD, EAST AND SOUTH BY LAND OF ISAAC LE GRAND AND WEST AND
SOUTH BY LAND OF JAMES KINLOCK.

On Oct. 14, 1730, John Robert of Cousa Island made a Will, probated Feb. 6,
1731, naming John jr, Thomas, daughters Johanna and Julianna Wiatt (Possibly
the name of his wife?). Thomas is named Executor. This John jr. must be
the
explanation for the phrase "which John now has" in the description of the
land boundaries of land Judith and John Gendron signed off on. It was
probated
Feb 8, 1731. We now have a John jr. of Cousa and a Thomas of Cousa who
appear to be grandsons of Pierre and Judith Videau Robert.

Thomas then draws a Will in 740, which leaves his land his wife, Elizabeth,
and to daughters Hannah and Elizabeth and to an unborn child. The Will is
probated in 1743. In 1761 Thomas Roberts apparently thomas jr. and the
unborn
child of thomas Robet's Will of 1740 Memorializes the rights that descended
to
Rebecca Edinbutgh, Mary Goffe and Mary Shadduck probably his mothers
sisters,
and also acknowledges her rights in her father Thomas Sr.'s Estate as he
is
now of age and can succeed to his own rights of 200 acres set off in his
father's will if "the unborn child is a boy". This Release which confirms
his
sister Hannah;s rights reers to a lese and release dated Aug 2/3 1735. The
land
that thomas jr. releases is on Bohicket Creek North by John Evans, East by
Thomas Roberts, south by John Taylor and west on the Creek. Thomas calls
himself Of Colleton Co. His release of his sister's Rights allows her
husband
Solomon Freer, to prove up on the land.

The mystery is is this the Dr. John of John/Jean of Colleton and the land
appears to be partly of Pierre and partly of Jean and passed from Rev.
Pierre.
Is he an unknown son of Pierre, son of Rev. Pierre. The daughters listed
for Jean/John are an Ann and a Mary I believe, though he did have sons John
and
Thomas. He is said to have married Margaret Elizabeth Dixon. So who are
Juliana Wiatt and Johanna. Thomas also remembered Johanna his sister in
his
Will, by her maiden name and not a married name. Do you have any ideas?
Could this John jr have moved up to part of the Barony at Georgetown which
Jean
allegedly procured in England?

If he is the father of the Joseph I am looking for then another question
arises, for there is definitely some connection with the columbia Co. Fl
group.
when my grandfather Marion dies, my Father Sidney found in his wallet the
Obituary for Capt. Arthur roberts, son of Zachariah and cousin to phoebe
Weeks
wife of John buttermilk Roberts. He had evidently carried it for over
twenty
years and my Father's birth date was so close to Capt. Arthur's death date
that
I am certain he received the name of Arthur Sidney honor of Capt. Arthur.
A
man only honors an other man in such manner if they are related or hae
served
together in a War. The military record of my Gradfather and that of Capt.
Arthur do nit indicate any posibility of meeting. furthermore Capt. Arthur
had
a brother referred to in records as Ali or Alix, which could be the
untutored
spelling for Alex or Alexander, the name of my Great grandfather whose
Pedigree I am trying to discover. Capt. Arthur, Alix, Randall, Asa,,
Reithy, Mary
and Zachariah jr. were all children of Zachzriah SR.and Mary Weeks Roberts.

Asa Roberts mar. first wife Berlinda Burnett in Camden Co. GA on Sept 20,
1837. Went to columba Co. FL. Mournig Roberts mother of Royal and Roger
Robrtrs, makes a gift to her sons and Zachariah Roberts is Witness in Camden
Co.
GA. They are later in FL. Zachariah Roberts and Lewis Robert are both of
Chester Co. SC.

Thanks for any light you can throe o this mixture. Silvia Roberts Lowrey





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