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Subject: Re: [ROGERS-BEN] Burial site of Dr. Rev. William Rogers
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2001 09:06:08 EST
Janet,
Thanks so much for sharing the information about the place of Dr Rev William
Rogers' (b. 1777) burial. That's the kind of participation that I have long
hoped for on this list.
You also mentioned the information from the Claiborne Co Pioneer Project by
the Brubakers. I would use any informtion from that site with great caution.
The Brubakers have not done an of the research themselves and have just
taken bits and pieces that they have found without any quality control. I
have seen many errors in their data.
Ray and I discussed that many months ago and wanted to try and correct their
data, but it is so messed up I just do not know where to start.......and
frankly do not have the time. The biggest problem seems to be that they mix
up many different Rogers with the same first names, i.e., Jesse, Benjamin,
John, David, Reuben, etc. Perhaps some of the problems have been corrected,
but I'm from Missouri (and have to be shown).
The value of posting information to this list is that everyone has a chance
to examine it, critically review it, challenge, and correct it. There were
only two pieces of information that you provided that I disagree with:
- Dr Rev William b. 1777 was a "native of Claiborne Co, TN". To me,
being a native of Claiborne Co means that he was born there. He was
certainly not born in Claiborn Co, TN. First, neither Claiborne Co nor TN
existed in 1777 and secondly, the family lived in what was then Montgomery
Co, VA and later became Wythe Co, VA at the time of William's birth.
- Major David b. 1779 served under Gen Jackson at the battle of New
Orleans. Maj David certainly served in the War of 1812, but under Gen
Jackson? I guess you could say the every volunteer from TN served under Old
Hickory, but certainly not directly under him. I've seen nothing to indicate
that David was at New Orleans. His brother Jesse b. 1791 was also in the War
of 1812. I've also seen folks that claim Jesse was at the battle of New
Orleans "under Gen Jackson", but it is not true. I suspect that some folks
just assume that all TN volunteers that were in the War of 1812 were with Old
Hickory at New Orleans............it just ain't so.
Here's some very good detailed information that Ray provided some time back:
Thema: Re: Major David Rogers
Datum: 06/27/2000 11:22:33 PM GMT
Von: SWDLookN
An: JRogers722
Cousin's,
I found the following on "Lineage's Genealogy Site: Military Research Room,
at www.lineages.com/military/mil_1812.asp. This might clear up the question
"who's Regiment did Major David Rogers serve in?"
Maj. David Rogers Military Record, filed under Bunch's Mtd. Reg't
(1813-1814), East, Tennessee Volunteers. (War of 1812), contains three papers:
1. Subsistence account (signed by David Rogers 2nd major) commenced
on 15 Oct. 1813 thru 14 Jan. 1814 for 92 days. He was given 4 rations
per day for a total of 368 rations.
2. Is a pay record lists his service from 14 Oct.1813-14 Jan. 1814.
3. Is the settlement pay record for his service from 14 Oct.1813-14 Jan.
1814. He received $60 per mo. 3 MO's for a total of $180.
These dates coincide with Colonel Samuel Bunch's first unit of Tennessee
Volunteers. In his pension record he states that he was in Colonel Lillard's
Reg't. Maybe he was assigned to Col. Lillard's Reg't for a short period.
They could be many reasons why the two records contradict each other. We must
remember he was 71 years old in 1851 when he made his first application for
land warrant. This should explain why there are a number of notations in his
pension application stating they were unable to find a record of his service
under Col. Lillard.
Ray
COLONEL William Lillard's Regiment:
Designation: 2nd Regiment East Tennessee Volunteer Militia
Dates: October 1813 - February 1814
Men mostly from: Greene, Jefferson, Sullivan, Cocke, Grainger, Hawkins, and
Washington Counties
CAPTAINS: George Argenbright, Zacheus Copeland, Jacob Dyke, William
Gillenwater, (Ensign)Abraham Gregg, William Hamilton, Jacob Hartsell, George
Keys, Benjamin H. Kings, James Lillard, Robert Maloney, Hugh Martin, Robert
McAlpin (McCalpin), Thomas McCuiston, William McLinn, John Neatherton, John
Roper, Thomas Sharp
BRIEF HISTORY:
This regiment of about 700 men was assigned to fill the ranks at Fort
Strother for Andrew Jackson after the December 1813 "mutiny" of his army.
While at Fort Strother, they comprised half of Jackson's forces until
mid-January 1814 when their enlistments were up. This regiment was used to
keep the lines of communication open and to guard supply lines. Their route
was from Kingston, Tennessee to Fort Armstrong (early December 1813) to Fort
Strother. Cherokees friendly to the United States fought with various units
of the Tennessee militia and Lieutenant Colonel William Snodgrass commanded a
detachment of Cherokees at Fort Armstrong from mid-January to early February
1814.
COLONEL Samuel Bunch's Regiment
DESIGNATION: 1st Regiment of Volunteer Mounted Infantry
DATES: October 1813 - January 1814
MEN MOSTLY FROM: Claiborne, Grainger, Cocke, Greene, Hawkins, Jefferson, and
Washington Counties
CAPTAINS: James Cumming, William Houston(Huston), John Inman, William
Jobe, Thomas Mann, James Penny, Henry Stephens, David G. Vance
BRIEF HISTORY:
Colonel Samuel Bunch commanded two separate regiments at different times
during the war. This regiment of three-month enlistees, in the brigade of
General James White, participated in the action against the tribe of Creeks
known as the Hillabees (18 November 1813). Although Jackson was negotiating a
peace proposal with this tribe, the East Tennesseans under General White were
not aware of this situation when they attacked the Hillabee village. This
attack by White's brigade, aided by a band of Cherokees, led to a stubborn
resistance by the Hillabees until the end of the Creek War.
This regiment passed through Fort Armstrong, located on Cherokee land, in late
November 1813. There was much protest by the Cherokees concerning property
destroyed by the Tennessee troops as they were marching home. The Cherokees
claimed that their livestock was "wantonly destroyed for sport" by the
Tennessee soldiers.
DESIGNATION: 2nd Regiment of East Tennessee Militia
DATES: January 1814 - May 1814
MEN MOSTLY FROM: Claiborne, Grainger, Washington, Jefferson, Knox, Blount,
Cocke, Greene, Hawkins, Rhea, and Sevier Counties
CAPTAINS: James Allen, Amos Barron, Francis Berry, Andrew Breeden,
Edward Buchanan, Moses Davis, Solomon Dobkins, Joseph Duncan, John English,
Nicholas Gibbs, George Gregory, Jones Griffin, John Houk, John Howell, John
McNair (McNare), Francis Register, Samuel Richerson, (Maj.)Alexander Smith,
Isaac Williams, Daniel Yarnell
BRIEF HISTORY:
Andrew Jackson's official report of the Battle of Horseshoe Bend (27 March
1814)
mentions that "a few companies" of Colonel Bunch were part of the right line
of the
American forces at this engagement. More than likely, some of those companies
included Captains Francis Berry, Nicholas Gibbs (who was killed at the
battle), Jones Griffin, and John McNair. In addition, muster rolls show some
casualties from this battle in the companies led by Captains Moses Davis,
Joseph Duncan, and John Houk. Other men from this regiment remained at Fort
Williams prior to Horseshoe Bend to guard the post -- provision returns
indicate that there were 283 men from Bunch's regiment at the fort at the
time of the battle. This regiment was in General George Doherty's Brigade
and many of the men stayed after the enlistment expiration of May 1814 to
guard the posts at Fort Strother and Fort Williams until June/July. The line
of march went through Camp Ross (near present-day Chattanooga), Fort
Armstrong, and Fort Jackson.
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