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From: Network Planning <>
Subject: mail between networks
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 89 09:54:42 EDT


> The question about connecting up with GENIE through Bitnet, I think is
> answered by the fact of two, separate e-mail systems. I would like
> to know how to subscribe to Bitnet for non-university people.
> Does anyone know?
>
First off, the easy question first. BITNET (now merged with CSnet)
as well as the Internet, is a network of Institutions - not individuals.
In general, anyone affiliated with a "research facility" can successfully
apply for membership. Today especially, the Internet is being "replaced"
with the concept of "NREN". (See following included message), making
it much easier for "commercial research" facilities to connect up.
UUNET (uucp) on the other hand is a network containing individual unix
based systems, as well as institutions. However, as a result it is much
more limited in the services available - No remote login, for example.
(The cost differences are substantial.)

Now, as far a mail transfer between any of the Commercial VANs (Value Added
Networks) and the Internet. Yes it can be done, but sorry, you can't do it.
(If you have to ask HOW to do it you are not one of the ones permitted to
do it. - A somewhat gratuitous statement - read on:)) In August of 1990,
the US DOD (Department of Defense) is mandated to support X.400 mail
systems (read VANs) instead of SMTP. In preparation for that time, a
contract exists with ISI to provide a mail gateway service (CMR) between
the Internet and the various VANs. It has been functional for about a year.
Since this is a DARPA funded project only "offical" DARPA business is
permitted. However.... enough paraphrasing -read message 2 below.
For the gory "how to" details read message 3.
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From: Laura Breeden <>
Date: Mon, 8 May 1989 10:07:26 EDT
Subject: New "National Research Network" Connections for CSNET

As most of you probably know, the Arpanet, which at the ripe old age of
20 is the granddaddy of all the research networks, is being retired, and
a number of other networks are growing up in its place. For CSNET, this
means that many of the organizations (universities, laboratories, etc.)
we, and you, want to connect to are now better reached via gateways not
directly on the Arpanet. For this reason, the CSNET Executive Committee
asked the National Science Foundation for permission to establish two
gateways to the NSFNET backbone, one on the West Coast and one in the
East. NSF has granted permission, and we are making plans to set up the
new gateways. We will retain our remaining Arpanet gateway until
march ofnext year, when it will be decommissioned.

Details of the connections are still being worked out, but we expect to
have links in place by the end of the summer. As CSNET users, you will
have faster and more reliable service to NSFNET and its associated
networks. CSNET has also installed a back-up connection to the Defense
Research Internet (DRI) at BBN, for improved redundancy.

All of these networks collectively are becoming known as the "national
research and education network" (NREN), and a national campaign is under
way to build support, in Congress and on campuses, for the development
of the NREN. We can provide more information about these plans if you
are interested.
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Reply-To:
Date: Tue, 23 May 89 15:58:13 PDT
From:
Posted-Date: Tue, 23 May 89 15:58:13 PDT

Acceptable Use Policy for Intermail and CMR

The Internet is composed of many networks sponsored by many
organizations. However, all the long-haul networks are provided by US
government agencies. Each of these agencies limits the use of the
facilities it provides in some way. In general, the statement by an
agency about how its facilities may be used is called an "Acceptable Use
Policy".

The various agencies involved in the Internet are currently preparing
their Acceptable Use Policy statements. Most of these are in draft form
and have not been released as official agency statements as yet. None
of these policies is currently available as online documents.

In the least restrictive case, all bona fide researchers and scholars,
public and private, from the United States and foreign countries (unless
denied access by national policy) are allowed access.

The Intermail and Commercial Mail Relay (CMR) systems at the University
of Southern California Information Sciences Institute (ISI) are
resources provided by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency
(DARPA) for computing and communication. Use of these resources must be
limited to DARPA sponsored work or other approved government business
(or otherwise meet the acceptable use policy of DARPA), only.

However, DARPA as a member of the Federal Research Internet Coordinating
Committee (FRICC) has agreed to the (draft) policy for communication
networks that provides (in part) that: "the member agencies of the FRICC
agree to carry all traffic that meets the acceptable use policy of the
originating member agency".

Thus, e-mail messages (i.e., "traffic") that meet the acceptable use
policy of an agency and pass through some facility of that agency (i.e.,
"the originating member") on the way to Intermail or CMR are allowed.

The current member agencies of the FRICC are DARPA, NSF, DOE, NASA, and
NIH.

BITNET and UUCP (and other) networks are interconnected to the Internet
via mail relays. It is the responsibility of the managers of these mail
relays to ensure that the e-mail messages ("traffic") that enters the
Internet via their mail relays meets the acceptable use policy of the
member agency providing the Internet access.
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Subject: Update on Commercial Mail Relay
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 89 12:58:30 PST
From: Ann Westine <>

The Commercial Mail Relay Service (CMR)

In 1988, the Commercial Mail Relay (CMR) was developed to run on a dedicated
UNIX system, replacing the TOPS-20 based Intermail system. The Commercial
Mail Relay service currently provides mail relay service between the Internet
and three commercial electronic mail systems: US Sprint/Telenet, MCI-Mail, and
DIALCOM systems (IEEECompmail, NSFMAIL, and USDA-MAIL).

Once a person is a user of one of these systems they may exchange electronic
mail with users on the Internet via the Commercial Mail Relay service.

**************************************************************************
The only requirement for using this mail gateway is that the work conducted
must be DARPA sponsored research and other approved government business.
**************************************************************************

While CMR has the technical capability to interconnect any two mail systems,
our policy requires at least one end of the communication to be DARPA related.
We cannot allow DARPA facilities to be used simply as a bridge between two
commercial systems.

The CMR mailbox address in each system is:

Telemail: [Intermail/USCISI]TELEMAIL/USA
MCI-Mail: Intermail or 107-8239
CompMail: Intermail or CMP0817
NSF-Mail: Intermail or NSF153
USDA-Mail: Intermail or AGS9999

ADDRESSING TO THE COMMERCIAL MAIL SYSTEMS
=========================================

The following are examples of correct addresses for the various systems.

MCIMAIL:
123-4567 --seven digit address
John Smith --person's name (must be unique)

CMRs account on MCIMAIL - 107-8239

COMPMAIL:
CMP0123 --three letters, followed by three or four digits
J.Smith --initial "."last name
134:CMP0123 --domain ":" combination system and account number

CMRs account on COMPMAIL - 134:CMP0817

NSFMAIL:
NSF0123 --three letters, followed by three or four digits
J.Smith --initial "."last name
157:NSF0123 --domain ":" combination system and account number

CMRs account on NSFMAIL - 157:NSF153

USDAMAIL:
AGS0123 --three letters, followed by three or four digits
J.Smith --initial "."last name
157:AGS0123 --domain ":" combination system and account number

CMRs account on USDAMAIL - 157:AGS9999

TELEMAIL:
JSMITH --user (directly on Telemail)
JSMITH/XYZORG --user/organization (directly on Telemail)
[JSMITH/XYZORG]TELEMAIL/USA -- [user/org]sysbranch/country
[JSMITH/XYZORG]MAIL/USA -- [user/org]sysbranch/country
[JSMITH/XYZORG]GTEMAIL/USA -- [user/org]sysbranch/country
[JSMITH/XYZORG]TELECOM/USA -- [user/org]sysbranch/country

CMRs account on TELEMAIL - [INTERMAIL/USCISI]

OTHER TELENET SYSTEMS
=====================

TELEMAIL/USA NASAMAIL/USA MAIL/USA
TELEMEMO/AUSTRALIA TELECOM/CANADA TOMMAIL/CHILE
TMAILUK/GB ITALMAIL/ITALY ATI/JAPAN
PIPMAIL/ROC DGC/USA FAAMAIL/USA
GSFC/USA GTEMAIL/USA TM11/USA
TNET.TELEMAIL/USA USDA/USA

OMNET's Sciencenet is on the telenet system MAIL/USA. Listed below are some
subdivisions we mail to:

AIR Atmospheric Sciences
EARTH Solid Earth Sciences
LIFE Life Sciences
OCEAN Ocean Sciences
POLAR Interdisciplinary Polar Studies
SPACE Space Science and Remote Sensing

A typical message to someone on OMNET would be in the form:

[a.mailbox/omnet]mail/usa

DIALCOM SYSTEMS
===============

Dialcom services are also publicly offered in the following
countries and to the following systems: Domain and system number
combinations are used on remote systems other than system 134 and 157.

Service Name Country DOMAIN # SYSTEM #
------------ ------- -------- ---------

Keylink-Dialcom Australia 60 07,08,09
Dialcom Canada 20 20,21,22,23,24
DPT Databoks Denmark 124 71
Telebox Finland 127 62
Telebox Germany (West) 30 15,16
Dialcom Hong Kong 80 88,89
Eirmail Ireland 100 74
Goldnet Israel 50 05,06
Mastermail Italy 130 65,67
Mastermail Italy 1 66,68
Dialcom Japan 70 13,14
Dialcom Korea 1 52
Telecom Gold Malta 100 75
Dialcom Mexico 1 52
Memocom Netherlands 124 27,28,29
Memocom Netherlands 1 55
Starnet New Zealand 64 01,02
Dialcom Puerto Rico 58 25
Telebox Singapore 88 10,11,12
Dialcom Taiwan 1 52
Telecom Gold United Kingdom 100 01,04,17,80-89
DIALCOM USA 1 29,30,31,32,33,
34,37,38,41,42,
43,44,45,46,47,
48,49,50-59,61,
62,63,90-99

For more information and instructions on how to use Commercial Mail Relay
(CMR) also known as Intermail, please send a message to our user support
group at "".

Thank you.

Ann Westine
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William H. Magill Manager, PENNnet Operations Planning
Data Communications and Computing Services (DCCS) University of Pennsylvania
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