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From: "George W. Durman" <>
Subject: Re: [ROOTS-L] Myths & Facts About Thanksgiving
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2011 02:18:50 -0500
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Nelda, kudos to you.

Shirley's post was a waste of time for any serious researcher to explore.

I don't know who Shirley is, but she is trying her best to debunk everything we know about the early settlers. Why?

Is Shirley a "kook" who is "misguided", or is she a person


At 11/6/2011 06:28 PM Sunday, Nelda Percival wrote:
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>Shirley,
>
>What do you think "Wild Fowl" is? Turkey, Duck, Pigeon, Pheasant, Quail. All these and more, were and still are wild.
>
>The history of bread goes back at least 30,000 years, there was leaven and un-leaven. They even drank spirts mostly a type of Ale/beer.as water was unsafe.
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>Potatos came from the Americas to Europe.. 1500s, the Spanish brought them back and so did Sir Walter Raleigh to England.
>
>The term stuffing first appears in English print in 1538. After 1880, it seems the term stuffing did not appeal to the propriety of the Victorian upper crust, who began referring to it as dressing. Nowadays, the terms stuffing and dressing are used interchangeably, with stuffing being the term of preference in the South and East portions of the United States.
>
>
>Potatoes have become such a European staple that it wouldnt be hard to
>find someone in Ireland or Poland who would swear that the starchy
>little tuberous crop was indigenous to the Old World. But in fact,
>potatoes are native to the Americas and were only introduced to Europe
>in 1536.
>
>Why dried Corn - the Indians made many recipes out of corn. one was a traveling food a mixture of berries co9rn and vension ground up into a past then dried in patties. It is called
>Oh and the was bread from from Acorns too..
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>They had fish and oysters all Indian foods..
>
>I agree that the journal only referred to "venison and wild fowl", but you don't mention butter when you tell some one what you ate because it is common. Just because it was not recorded does not mean it wasn't eaten.
>
>You need to first record what type of wild fowl was in Mass at the time. then you need to know what supplies the colonists brought with them, did they bring, most likely chickens and cows and pigs and horses. they also brought flower and spices and.... ??? By the way Wild boar was in the area too.
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>The Indians had, a developed civilization, they made pottery and smoked tobacco in clay pipes, they, depending on the tribes, even did farming. They had leaders, they did not have princesses.
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>Your right there were no tables and probably the colonists females did not put out the white linen and china, put they had metal plates and silverware.
>Cutlery see here a picture of a traveling set (french) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutlery. THe people who came as Pilgrams were here for religious reasons. Some had even been jailed for pursuing their Strict faith so to say they did not give thanks over a meal isn't correct.
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> No they probably did not have some BIG celebration as portrayed in grade school... but really
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>And there were even guns in those days too...
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>The Indians were sharing they would share their best...
>
>One more comment we all eat what we prefer.. at any meal...
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>
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>Nelda L. Percival -
>
>Involved in 4 email lists rootsweb, 18 message boards roots/ancestry, 4
> Y-DNA projects FTDNA, 1 DNA project Ancestry.com, 1 personal website for genealogy, 1 surname
>project/website, 4 blogs, 1 church website 1 rest home website (both
>England) , Website for The Lost colonists, 3 genealogy websites for
>others and my business website, plus I'm taking classes on line for
>internet marketing, plus tested myself at 23&me; I have no extra
>time... I want a clone..or two
>
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