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From: Ruth Christ <>
Subject: Re: [RMagic] People without a Surname/Margaret
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 13:06:28 -0600
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I use a style similar to Margaret's but including more of the husband's
name in inverted form, e.g. Nancy Ann [Hotchkiss, Mrs. James]. For my
Norwegians, I use the farm at time of birth in the surname field (yes, I
know it's not a surname), but if I don't know what that is, I put the
earliest associated farm in brackets. That beats dealing with long lists
of Anna Larsdtr.s. in a database for a whole kommune. I "inherited"
management of a database using nothing in the surname field and it is not
fun to try to locate the right Ole Olson.

What I would really like to see is a separate field for patronyms in the
GEDCOM standard to deal with the fact that sometimes Olson is a patronym
and sometimes it really is a surname.

Ruth C.

At 08:32 AM 3/6/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>In a message dated 3/5/2007 9:55:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> writes:
>There is probably no perfect solution that everyone likes. I keep
>hoping that the professional genealogists will come up with a standard which
>would be preferable to all of our different work-arounds.
>I use the nick name field a lot, so Anne's solution would not work for
>Until a better convention comes about, I use brackets around the
>married surname when the woman's surname is unknown, i.e. Nancy Ann
>[Hotchkiss]. I have never been happy having no surname at all for the woman
>and at least the married surname gives her some identity. The brackets work
>well in the identification process with multiple husbands, where I use the
>first married name and add the other husbands just as one would do with a
>woman whose surname was known..
>I had begun a few years back using ( ) around the married surname;
>but this is the standard for a missing surname, so I quickly changed to the
>brackets when I realized I was being misleading.
>To prevent misunderstandings on my WorldConnect database, I explain how
>I use the brackets. These bracketed names all sort together.
>Margaret Scheffler
>Perhaps your memory is better than mine, but doing it your way leaves me
>with a list of [Miller] surnames of which I can't remember which
>lady goes with
>which Miller husband. Of course there are those I do know, but often I had
>to keep going back to check which man went with which woman. How are you
>to keep them all straight in your mind?
>Victoria Miller Billings
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