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From: "Mail Lists" <>
Subject: Re: [RMagic] Truncated Residence Fact Sentence
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:01:33 -0700
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I will be on the road for a couple of days.

Try the following:

1. Create a blank database, then open your original next to it (side by
side).

2. Drag these 5 individuals one at a time to the new database. Don't bother
with the families.

3. Try your web page from the new database and see if the locs are still
truncated.

4. If so, backup the new database and attach it to an e-mail to me. It will
be a zip file (or compressed folder). Recommend you save it to the desktop
when you create it for ease of mailing.

5. Indicate where each location truncates.

If all is OK in step 3, then look at other facts for the individual that
have something causing the problem in your main database. Use the same
concepts from above and try turning off various facts used until you find
which one causes each individuals problem, Correct each fact and repeat
until all is fixed.

I seem to recall some type of correction to an old FOW conversion program,
but do not rememmber when or what the proble was. The solution was to
reconvert the data after the fix was distributed.

Dick

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandra Studebaker" <>
To: <>
Cc: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [RMagic] Truncated Residence Fact Sentence


> Dick--
> Your guess about errant "marks" seems to have been correct. I was able to
> correct the problem of truncated residence fact sentences by deleting and
> retyping the place name for each entry as you suggested. I did so in 23 of
> the 28 instances. Am including the remaining 5 for your analysis, if you
> will kindly oblige. (Hope I'm doing this correctly. Typed the following
> info
> up to and including the colon. Then copied and pasted the place info from
> the edit fact window.)
>
> 1) Woodson Studebaker Carlisle resided in: South Bend, Indiana
> 2) Frederick Studebaker Fish resided in: Minneapolis, Minnesota
> 3) John Studebaker Hardy resided in: Liberty, New York
> 4) William Studebaker Johnson resided in: Belmont, California
> 5) Helen Anne Studebaker resided in: Cohasset, Massachusetts
>
> The 28 instances were in a 550-name subset extracted from a larger
> 25,700-name database. Am now concerned about the later as we will likely
> want to create an Internet web site with it eventually. Is there a way to
> easily locate all similarily truncated sentences in the larger database?
>
> I present the following background information in case it's of any help in
> determining the cause of the fragmented sentence structure of the
> residence
> fact when creating a web site. I originally created the comprehensive
> 24,700-name database in Family Origins ver.7. But wanting to retain
> FOW7--which I still have on my PC--after Roots Magic came out, I created a
> Gedcom file of the DB and imported it into RootsMagic, eventually
> upgrading
> RM with each new version through the current 3.2.6. Might the Gedcom
> export/import have caused the glitch?
>
> Very much appreciate your assistance.
> --Sandra
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mail Lists" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [RMagic] Fw: Truncated Residence Fact Sentence
>
>
>> My guess is you have some "silly punction mark" in the address. This
> "mark"
>> has an effect only in HTML coding, thus the problem when displayed in a
> web
>> page.
>>
>> Try creating a new database, and put in just a few people with the
>> problem
>> addresses. Be sure to re-type them, not copy from the existing database.
>> Check the results. If OK, then try re-typing the addresses in your
>> normal
>> database.
>>
>> If this does not fix the problem, please post a group of the failing
>> addresses to this group by using cut and paste into your message. This
> will
>> give us your exact address with all spacing, codes, etc.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sandra Studebaker" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 12:57 PM
>> Subject: [RMagic] Fw: Truncated Residence Fact Sentence
>>
>>
>> > Alfred--
>> > Thanks for your response. Sorry, I accidentally mis-spoke in saying
>> > that
>> > some of the truncated residence fact sentences say "He/She lived" while
>> > others say "He/She resided...." I did, in fact, use the default word
>> > "lived" in the sentence structure. It was only in composing my email
> that
>> > I
>> > slipped-up and typed the optional word "resided." Probably because I
>> > actually prefer the later.
>> >
>> > Regarding your suggestions:
>> > There exists only one personal Residence Fact in the database; I
>> > neither
>> > created nor imported a second user defined Residence Fact. Nor did I
>> > accidentally or intentionally use the Family Residence Fact. After
> running
>> > a
>> > Residence List report I found another four occurrences of the truncated
>> > sentence, making a total of 28--and checked them all. Recall, however,
>> > that
>> > seven of the personal Residence Fact sentences ARE complete and
> correctly
>> > contain the locality as entered.
>> >
>> > Any other thoughts now, especially since you apparently found something
>> > "very interesting" regarding the family residence fact. Just in case
> the
>> > problem might be with my PC system, have considered sending the
>> > database
>> > to
>> > a colleague, and project volunteer, to see what results he gets in
>> > creating
>> > the web site pages with RootsMagic. But, would rather not jump through
>> > those
>> > hoops if I don't have to do so.
>> >
>> > Thanks again, Alfred, for your help.
>> > --Sandra
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Alfred Eller" <>
>> > To: <>
>> > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 11:22 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [RMagic] Truncated Residence Fact Sentence
>> >
>> >
>> >> If some of them say He/She Lived and others say He resided, I suspect
>> >> you have two residence facts.
>> >> One original that came with the program and the other a user defined
>> >> fact.
>> >>
>> >> WOOPS, maybe not user defined, Could it be that some are personal
> facts
>> >> and the others are family facts? the program has both built in.
>> >>
>> >> One would say "He/she lived..., the other would use "They lived... or
>> >> resided,
>> >> HMMM I can get the personal fact to say "he resided" but the family
>> >> fact remains "they lived" even if I change the sentence template.
>> >> Very interesting?
>> >>
>> >> Alfred D. Eller
>> >> http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~adelr/index.htm
>> >> =====================================
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Sandra Studebaker wrote:
>> >> > RM Listers--
>> >> > Does anyone know what would cause a Fact sentence to become
>> >> > truncated
>> > when
>> >> > creating a web site? More importantly how does one correct the
> problem?
>> > Or
>> >> > am I missing something? This is my first attempt at creating a web
>> >> > site.
>> >> > Using RM 3.2.6, I utilized the Create a Web Site option for a
>> >> > 550-person
>> >> > sub-set of a larger database. After doing so, however, I noticed
>> >> > that
>> >> > in
>> > 24
>> >> > instances the Residence Fact states only: "He/She lived." when there
> is
>> >> > clearly specific geographic data in the Place Field of the Residence
>> > Fact
>> >> > for all 24 individuals. Even more mystifying is that there is a
>> >> > complete
>> >> > Residence Fact for another 7 individuals, e.g., "He resided in
> Greeley,
>> >> > Colorado"; "She resided in Sacramento, California." The remaining
>> >> > individuals in the database do not contain residence data. This
>> >> > only
>> > seems
>> >> > to happen in generating a web site. A Narrative Report of the
> database
>> >> > correctly displays/prints all pertinent Residence Facts in full.
>> >> > What
>> > gives?
>> >> > --Sandra
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
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