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From: "Mary Ellen Greer" <>
Subject: Re: [RUDDLESFORT] Cumberland River Cems?
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 10:15:32 -0600
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"Kewl"...glad to know some of the ancestors are hunting...black powder and
all. My nephew, John Paul Gordon, is a big hunter along with my brother JD
Franks in Kansas.

JP attended a black powder shot in the Tulsa, OK...with his step-brother,
and walked away with first prizes in all areas. That was his first
experience at doing that. However, he and my brother, hunt all the time in
Kansas on JD's property. They hunt deer, turkey, duck, geese, and anything
other that is in season. Big hunters, as you can tell. When not hunting
then fishing!

This is in southeast Kansas...right a mile from the Oklahoma border. The
Franks kids were raised in that part of the state....my brother has over
1,000 acres he hunts on now. fishing and hunting....he is doing that when
not at work!

Enjoy reading about all the hunting and fishing. My husband was a hunter
and fisherman also. I also like to hunt and fish.

Mary Ellen Franks~Greer
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Sengel" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:19 PM
Subject: [RUDDLESFORT] Cumberland River Cems?


> Sorry I did not get back earlier...last week of Turkey season, Black
powder
> deer this weekend..I checked the KY Historical Society Library Sat for the
> Easter file. Not much there at all, only about ten pages and you have it
> all..There are no books on the cemeteries of Cumberland Co KY at the
> library. I checked the genweb site and there is not much there either..It
> may be next spring before I get down to that part of the state again. I
will
> keep searching about in the mean time. There is a cem. on the topo map
just
> to the west of the Arch.. interesting gravel or dirt road that winds north
> then east up Bledsoe Creek then up over a gap and down another creek
running
> due west.. This must have been the original road and it went over a little
> ridge or gap..I wonder if this is Easter Gap...have you ever been there?
I
> counted over a dozen cems on the topomap in that one bend of the river
(next
> one west). I will be like looking for a needle in a haystack without
someone
> locally connected to the historical society. I am sure someone has
surveyed
> those family plots in the past. I just need to find out who..
>
> We will figure it out. I just takes time, especially when it is not close
> by..I need to get my ducks in a row. Local contacts, permission from land
> owners, etc. etc.... takes time. relax.. I got it now, make an outline,
and
> put pen to paper. That has to happen. So the nay sayers will have their
> documentation to choke on.
>
> DDS
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Easter" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 8:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [RUDDLESFORT] RUDDLESFORT Digest, Estes,Miller Sacred indian
> Burial ground Cumberland Co. Mcdaniel Scottsin Granville N.C.
>
>
> > Anything you have on Estes, or Easter forward.
> > The blackfeet were with the ky pioneers.
> > Then, they migrated to Mo.our home Town of Bonne Terre, Mo.
> >
> > I too gathered, tomahawks, arrowheads, scapers along big river as a kid.
> > The caves in Mo.are the dark Cherokee, Blackfeet.
> > Chances are, if your Fort Ruddle, Fort Martin, Cherokee is in your
> > blood.
> > It is my blood!!
> >
> > The key is your were told that you are "black Dutch", you are Cherokee.
> > From the William Martin-guide of Boone.
> > Anyone else have web toes?
> > Passed in the DNA and gene pool.!
> >
> > Miller Sacred indian Buriall Ground, waiting for David to view
> > headstones, near my Patriarch, Cumberland Co.ky.
> > This has Wheeler matching DNA of Easter, and related most Fort Ruddle
> > names.
> >
> > http://www.topozone.com/map.asp?
> > lat=36.88568&lon=-85.23541&s=100&size=l&u=4&datum=nad83&layer=DRG
> >
> > Samponi Blackfeet Cherokee"
> >
> > http://www.saponitown.com/
> >
> > The Mcdaniel is in Easter line. From the Scots clan.
> > Gist, Duncan, Mcdaniel, Lawson, and DNA match of Shepard, All in
> > Granville, N.C.1751
> >
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~baumbach/1751tax01.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark Easter-Fort Ruddle, Fort Martin, Appalacia Va, Jamestown. Va.
> > On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:01 AM, wrote:
> >
> > This should fit with Fort Ruddle ky Pioneers
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Today's Topics:
> >>
> >> 1. Re: Early Families of Bourbon County, Kentucky-john Moore die
> >> Fort Ruddles-Name list and pedigree chartsof (Mary Ellen Greer)
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2007 09:50:28 -0600
> >> From: "Mary Ellen Greer" <>
> >> Subject: Re: [RUDDLESFORT] Early Families of Bourbon County,
> >> Kentucky-john Moore die Fort Ruddles-Name list and pedigree chartsof
> >> To: <>
> >> Message-ID: <007201c835c4$3af29e20$>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> >>
> >> The more names you write about....the more curious I've become. I
> >> see many
> >> of the names...which were last names in the town of Caney, Kansas.
> >>
> >> My dad use to hunt with the Indian children along the banks of the
> >> Caney
> >> River. As he was born in 1905, and told us stories about the
> >> Indians still
> >> moving across the plains in "his era" to different parts of the
> >> country, at
> >> different parts of the year.
> >>
> >> As children we would go along the banks and find old arrow heads,
> >> and I have
> >> a couple of rocks which look like they could've been used as a tool
> >> in some
> >> way.
> >>
> >> But...names like Burrows, McClure, Martins, Greers, Easterling,
> >> Estes, as
> >> I've mentioned before. Never thought about any of them having Indian
> >> background, however, anything is possible with all that I read on
> >> this web.
> >> This is quite an interesting read. Thanks for all the information.
> >>
> >> Mary Ellen Franks~Greer
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mark Easter" <>
> >> To: <>
> >> Cc: "Mike & Cathy Hokanson" <>; "Bob Mcclain"
> >> <>; "Doyle Harp" <>
> >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 8:50 PM
> >> Subject: [RUDDLESFORT] Early Families of Bourbon County,Kentucky-
> >> john Moore
> >> die Fort Ruddles-Name list and pedigree chartsof
> >>
> >>
> >>> Bob,
> >>> Mike Johnson
> >>> Dolye Harpe
> >>>
> >>> Ephraim Moore took in Capt,.Mcclains , and Mary Mcnairs kids,
> >>> daughter chief Vaugn. Ga.
> >>> Wonder if this is his brother?
> >>>
> >>> Did anyone know if Tobias Harp die in Forts, or the Scots Clan of
> >>> names used later?
> >>> Dna matching Arnold, same as McClain.
> >>>
> >>> Anyone have Arnold in Forts, or DNA? A pedigree?
> >>> Lived near Cumberland, ky. descendants
> >>>
> >>> Note he died Fort Ruddles, McClain, Easter DNA match.
> >>> Note the McClure, a dna match to Easter.
> >>> Johnson a match to dna Easter.
> >>>
> >>> Fort Ruddle, Bourbon Co.names and Pedigree Charts:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.shawhan.com/bourbonfamilies.html
> >>>
> >>> Cathy and Mike,
> >>>
> >>> Your blood die Fort Ruddles with mine, why a DNA match. (John Moore).
> >>> Note they used Easter as first names!
> >>> My blood killed, taken captive to Canada (Easter)
> >>>
> >>> Lands grants to Ruddles ancestors from Easter" Burke Co.Ga. was N.C.
> >>> Greer, Burrows, Hawkins
> >>>
> >>> John Moore pedigree:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.shawhan.com/bourbonfamilies.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Mark Easter-Fort Ruddle, Fort Martin Ephraim Easter ky, surity James
> >>> Martin, son of William Martin, guide of Boone.
> >>>
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