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Subject: Re: [Old96] Response to book "Ties That Bind" by Juanita H. Read
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2003 19:34:12 -0500
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Betty:
Thank you for all the resources to search. Our library does indeed have the
Andreas Papers.
My Langford/Lankford family had land grants from the Colonial period. They
also received land from the State after the RW.
I have been so very focused on the Langfords that I have had to let other
families slide. The discussion regarding the book and questions about Samuel
have opened the door to researching the Palmers now.
I may have (oh, dear! Me make an error?) made a mistake regarding the family
group of James Palmer in Mississippi. I named his wife as Nancy but she had
to have been one of the other ladies in the Langford family. I do not have a
marriage record for her nor anything else except James being named on land
record along with another son-in-law and the male heirs of Elleby Langford.
Only a fragment.
Please forgive my mistake.

The Langfords may not have always been Methodists, but my group going back
several generations were proud Methodists and many were active in the
church. Some of the Langfords were Quakers and the family that settled in
Newberry early on were before the RW. There was also a John Langford in SC
who was a Dunker along with the Chapmans.

Again thank you for the homework assignment.

Other SC families I am researching are McINNIS and McINTOSH. I believe they
lived in the Darlington area. But don't put my feet to the fire on this as I
am not looking at their file. They were born in the 1760's in Scotland and I
have yet to discover their arrivals to America. As the RW was in progress I
do not think that they migrated during that period so that leaves a very
narrow window between say 1769 and 1775 for a safe journey.

Tree Mother

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Subject: Re: [Old96] Response to book "Ties That Bind" by Juanita H. Read


> Hi Tree Mother,
>
> Thank you for your kind help. I believe those Palmers had a way of
> vanishing. I do know this much from reading the history of the time and
there were
> some Palmers in SC prior to the Rev. War, but live mostly in the lower and
middle
> part of SC. When the Indians ceded (we chased them out) right after the
Rev.
> War, the upper part of SC or the Cherokee lands became available for land
> grants. Prior to that there were a few grants from the King, but I am not
sure
> they covered the Indian lands or not, even though some Americans lived up
in
> the Uplands with the Indians.
>
> >From the Colony census, there were a few Palmers prior to the Rev. War.
> There was once John Palmer, but I believe he was from one of the lower
states in
> SC. After the Rev. War, when they began giving land grants, I have a list
in
> files (not before me) of all the Palmers who owned land in SC, but the
ones in
> the upper part of SC called Old 96th District, I have researched, and
cannot
> recall you John, but I did not concentrate on other lines....But, one of
the
> best places to find info about those Palmers are in the Leonardo Andreas
> Genealogical Collection. Years ago, he was a famous genealogist and
researched many
> families in SC, and he turned over to the SC Archives all his collection,
and
> the Mormons microfilmed the whole collection which are indexed, and have
them
> on microfilm that you can get through your local FHC. Dallas Genealogy
> Library probably has the whole collection because Clayton Genealogical
Library in
> Houston has the whole collection. I photocopied 53 pages (with citations)
of
> genealogy on the Palmers in SC and those who went on into GA.
>
> I will give you the site where you can bring up all the genealogy
manuscripts
> that were turned in to the SC State Archives, and the SC State Library has
> them, but I believe you can get them on microfilm from your local FHC.
However,
> this is the site at the SC State Library that gives you the names of
> manuscripts and the names of the families they have the genealogies on.
>
> <A
HREF="http://www.sc.edu/library/sccar/mscrpts/index.html">http://www.sc.edu/
library/sccar/mscrpts/index.html</A>
>
> Since your Palmer was in SC and then went to GA, I am going to give you
> another site that you may be able to get an Obituary on some of his
family, that is
> if they were of the Methodist Episcopal faith. Many of the Palmers were.
In
> Spartanburg, SC, there is a Methodist Episcopal College, Wofford College.
I
> found out they do not have the minutes of their churches, but they did
collect
> the Obituaries from the Southern Advocate and have Obits going as far back
as
> 1837, and are still in process of microfilming them.
>
> All you have to do is go into the site reflected below, and enter the
surname
> of the families you are searching, and a list will come up of the ones you
> are searching. Once you have, printed out and chosen the names of the
person
> you want an Obit, then you write the Archivist an e-mail and he will send
you
> copies of the Obit. He does not charge anything, however, since mailing
is an
> expense to them, I did make a small contribution to the library since they
were
> so helpful. It was accepted graciously.
>
> Here is the site to get an Index to the names they have Obits on. Go by
my
> steps listed below:
>
> 1) <A
HREF="http://www.woffordcollege.com">http://www.woffordcollege.com</A>;
>
> 2. Click on ACADEMIC
>
> 3) Click on SANDAR TESZLER LIBRARY
>
> 4) Click on ARCHIVES (on left side)
>
> 5) Click on THE ADVOCATE OBITUARY INDEX (on right side)
>
> 6) Search Obituary Index
>
> 7) Insert SURNAME
>
> A list of surnames will come up and many times will tell if they live in
SC
> or GA, and sometimes the county. It usually gives the death date. I have
many
> Palmer Obits, and be prepared for not getting a lot of genealogical info
> except the birth and death date, as in early days they told how good the
people
> were and are very flowery in their description of their lives. But a tear
came
> to my eye just reading the Obit of great-great grandmother, who was born
in
> 1800, and died in 1885. She had lost her husband quite young and had to
raise
> the children herself, and had lost 5 ofd her sons in the Civil War. It
told
> what a good Christian and courageous woman she was. So, if you can get
that on
> your ancestor, makes it worth it even though she did not name her children
by
> name, etc.
>
> Thanks again for trying to help me find the book on the Palmer's, and I
hope
> these sites will helps you some.
>
> Betty ROBERTSON Rich Paxson
>
>
>
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