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From: Lars Jørgen Helbo <>
Subject: Re: [S-H-RTS] LORENZEN genealogy
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 16:22:24 +0100


At 14:34 01-12-99 +0100, wrote:
>quick answer: Schleswig and Holstein were German duchies under the rule
>of the "German Kaiser(s) of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation(s)"
>in Wien (Vienna, Austria) for centuries before Napoleon came and made
>the Austrian resign from this part of his job in 1812; he stayed the
>sovereign of Austria after that.

"Quick reply" - do you mean this seriously? ;-)

a little more detailed:

Scleswig never belonged to the German empire - only Holstein did.

Secondly, this empire practically only existed up to around 1250
(Barbarossa, you know), after that time it was mainly paperwork with no
real influence on politics. So, in theory you are right that the duke of
Holstein was the subject to the emperor, but this was really nothing but
theory.

Or how will you explain the many wars fought between the different "parts"
of this "empire".

And what about the Austrian protestants, who found asylum in Schleswig
under the protection of the duke, who happened to be also the duke of
Holstein and the king of Denmark.

> Even after Napoleon had been defeated
>and died the borders and properties in the forme empire had changed so
>much (mainly at the expense of church properties which had been given to
>new kings etc. as made by Napoleon) that the Kaiser did not ask for the
>reconstruction again.

Reconstruction of what?
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