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From: "Greg W. Moore" <>
Subject: RE: [SCOT-DNA] r1a
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:30:13 -0700 (PDT)


One more comment - I just took a look at your Clan Leask web site - you indeed seem to be a continental Celt of the "Anglo-Saxon" type, because of your DYS# specific numbers. You are still of the ancient Iberian / "Celtic" breed though as part of the overall R1b gene pool. By the way - my grandfather who is R1b is of the classic Celtic-Gaelic type with a very high count coming from Ireland ... Greg



Indeed, those "cultural" / "political" Danish/Anglo-Saxons have the ancient (Atlantic / Iberian) "Celtic" origin too in the ethnic terms - obviously the ethnic groups mixed with each other over centuries and part of those "Celtic" tribes from Iberia eventually landed around Denmark and Germany and became culturally "Anglo-Saxons". That is why those "Anglo-Saxons" have the R1b haplogroup in addition to the real ethnic Anglo-Saxons who are Ixy. Because those continental R1bs were separated for centuries from the Irish/British R1bs they have developed some distinguishable DNA differences. The same could be sais about the Normans - they originally were Vikings but then they mixed up with the Celts, Anglo-Saxons, and Franks so they developed their separate Ixy features. Greg




Mac Leask <> wrote:
The Danish and the Anglo-Saxons are also R1b. They are however
distinguishable from the other R1bs, but not distinguishable from each
other. See my website www.Clan-Leask.us for further information on R1b
and the "Danish/Anglo-Saxon' haplotype shared by the Clan Leask.



-----Original Message-----
From: Greg W. Moore [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 1:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [SCOT-DNA] r1a


Mike,

I still think that the original area of R1a was the Russian steppes but
then the haplogroup spread out all over Eastern Europe, including the
northern parts up to Norway. The result would be even up to half of the
Scandinavians could be R1a and the other half the typical Viking
haplogroups of the Ixy type. This way indeed many people in the British
isles could be either R1b (ancient Iberian origin - the so called Gaelic
"Celts") or Ixy (ancient Greece origin - the so called "Vikings", but
including the old Celts - the Picts and also Normans) or even R1a
(ancient Russian steppes origin).

By the way - one of my grandfathers is R1b and the other is I1b - both
of Scottish origin.

Greg




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