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From: norman behan <>
Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 22:44:49 -0500
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Hi Tamiz

Even been born and bred in Canada. I had to relearn the Canadian abbrevications
from what I learned in school, before everything was computerized.

Sheila

jus'me wrote:

> Excellent point Sheila - sorry I didn't think to spell out the entire state
> name but I'll try to remember to do that in future - : )
> I know exactly how frustrating it can be - being a born and bred US
> southerner married to a Canadian - it's taken me some time to learn the
> province abbreviations as well...
>
> tamiz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "norman behan" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
>
> > Hi Tamiz
> >
> > You are not the only one that has trouble with abbreviation for the USA
> states. I
> > live in Canada and could name all the States, but when it comes to the
> abbreviations
> > I only know about half a dozen. It would be nice when some mentions a
> site that
> > they but in the full name and not the abbreviation. My ancestors were
> orginally
> > from Ayrshire area of Scotland.
> >
> > Sheila Behan
> >
> > ruthsconner wrote:
> >
> > > Tamiz,
> > > We take so much for granted don't we?
> > > I've been researching for just six months and it's been a real
> eye-opener to
> > > many things.
> > > Following your interesting comments I feel justified in doubting some of
> the
> > > census information I've read and will be taking them with an even larger
> > > grain of salt. Hadn't really thought about what would happen if the
> head of
> > > the family was not at home before, I'll be honest. All this is valuable
> to
> > > the beginner!
> > > ps Does anyone know of a website that outlines the abbreviations for US
> > > states as I am a Scot living in Oz and studied more history and basic
> > > geography.
> > > Ruth
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jus'me" <>
> > > To: <>
> > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 1:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
> > >
> > > > Glad I could help Ruth! :-)
> > > >
> > > > The technical definition of the word was stretched to include many who
> > > were
> > > > actually native americans as well. It all ties in with the horribly
> ridgid
> > > > racial classifications that were once so rampant here in the south.
> The
> > > > enumerators were only human and based their assumptions on what they'd
> > > been
> > > > taught. It's hard to imagine in our day and time that very few people
> > > could
> > > > even read and write during that time so finding a good enumerator was
> > > > tricky! There was a lot of guess work. Can you imagine not being able
> to
> > > > write or even spell your own name, much less knowing your heritage or
> > > > "nationality"? So name spellings were a lot of guess work too! And if
> the
> > > > head of the household wasn't available when the enumerator came 'round
> the
> > > > information might be reported by someone who had to guess about ages
> and
> > > > such. I've even read stories of neighbors giving the info for other
> > > > neighbors. So sometimes census records are sketchy at best, but
> definitely
> > > a
> > > > good clue.
> > > > I'm probably telling you things you already know - I just find it
> > > > fascinating.
> > > >
> > > > tamiz...
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "ruthsconner" <>
> > > > To: <>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2003 10:01 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Tamiz,
> > > > > Interestingly enough I've found a marriage to a New Mexican - Luella
> > > > Frances
> > > > > BRANNIN 12.06.1894 in Grant NM to John HD Cooper b. 1870 Lanark,
> > > Scotland
> > > > so
> > > > > there could indeed be something in your point re skin colour.
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > > Ruth
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "jus'me" <>
> > > > > To: <>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 2:21 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > York SC = York, South Carolina, USA - the term mulatto - which has
> > > > become
> > > > > a
> > > > > > very derragotary word - included pretty much anyone the census
> taker
> > > > > decided
> > > > > > wasn't ~pure white~ based purely on skin color.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > tamiz
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Donna Lou Ritter" <>
> > > > > > To: <>
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:30 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Mulatto means mixed black & white heritage. I don't know if
> there
> > > was
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > more specific definition than that
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "ruthsconner" <>
> > > > > > > To: <>
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 8:00 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [SCTCDN] Mulatto
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > > Anyone out there with knowledge of a race being listed in the
> US
> > > as
> > > > > > > "mulatto" in a census? Excuse my ignorance but the term is
> > > unfamiliar
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > me. The rest of the family show under race simply as "b".
> > > > > > > > Also, is "York Sc" York Nova Scotia?
> > > > > > > > Thanking you
> > > > > > > > Ruth
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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