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From: Leslie Hastings <>
Subject: Re: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 09:57:11 +0000
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It's also worth looking in Scotland's People with no first name. My
Ggrandfather's first name was not given on his birth certificate (1864);
he was born in hospital (unusually) and the matron or registrar wrote
his surname beautifully, but not his first name - none of the others on
his page have first names either. The matron obviously made one trip
every day or two to register hospital births.

Leslie

Liz Parkinson wrote:
> I have been throught this my 4 x gt grandmother, looking for her birth and
> her death, and came to the conclusions she must have been beamed down by
> aliens, and either have been beamed off again or was sitting in the corner
> of a residential home aged 204 and no-one realised that when she talked of
> the French Wars she was actually reminiscing. She was also an
> Isabella/ela/el/elle! On her marriage records (pre 1837) her name, not
> written by her she signed with a X, was either Greaves or Geaves depending
> on whether or not you took the ink blob on one occurence to be an R or an
> ink blob.
>
> She turned out to be Isabella JAVES. So, have you tried looking for
> bizarre spelling mistakes. Dutherford, Sutherford, Wutherford etc.
> However bizarre - I too am experienced but would never ever have looked for
> Javes because it is so obscure I had never known anyone by that name, and it
> took someone who had to think of it.
>
> Less likely - could she have been illegitimate and known by a different name
> to her father, or could her mother have remarried after being widowed and
> Isabella said that her father was William Rutherford when in fact in he was
> really her step father.
>
> Or, could she simply have been beamed down by aliens :-)
>
> As for my Isabel*** JAVES, she did die, but the aliens must have reclaimed
> her body as she wasnt buried anywhere - and I have tracked down all the
> family graves for that group of people!
>
> HTH
>
> Liz P
>
>
>> From: "pneanne" <>
>> Reply-To:
>> To: <>
>> Subject: [SCT-EDINBURGH] PLEASE CAN SOMEONE HELP - RUTHERFORD
>> Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2006 15:42:49 -0000
>>
>> Please, please, please, can someone help me to find my great grandmother,
>>
>> I have been researching my family for over 20 years and have also helped
>> numerous other people knock down their brick walls, so I am not a novice,
>> but I am absolutely stuck on my great grandmother Isabella Rutherford born
>> about 1846, Scotland. On the censuses her age is very consistent 1846/47.
>>
>> On her marriage to Peter Abbott of Preston, Lancashire she shows her father
>> as William Rutherford, coachman. Peter and Isabella were married in
>> Newport, Wales, as he was in the army. In 1871 he was stationed in Ireland,
>> so I have not got her on the 1871 Census.
>>
>> Peter Abbott was stationed at Edinburgh Castle in the 1860's before they
>> got married, so she may be from Edinburgh or was living there at the time.
>>
>> On the 1881 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as EDINBURGH.
>>
>> On the 1891 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as PRESTON.
>>
>> On the 1901 Census in Preston, her birthplace is shown as PAISLEY.
>>
>> Years ago, I sent for a birth certificate for Isabella Rutherford, born
>> 1846 Edinburgh, father William Rutherford. I was sent the certificate for
>> Isabella Rutherford, father William Rutherford, fisherman and Christian
>> Steele, in Newhaven, North Leith. I researched this family for ages and
>> travelled to Edinburgh a few times. I eventually discounted this family, as
>> this Isabella was still in Newhaven, Leith in 1901. I have also
>> discounted Isabella daughter of William Rutherford and Jessie Balmer.
>>
>> I have looked on the 1851 and 1861 Scotland Census Indexes on Ancestry and
>> also looked for births on Scotland's People, but nothing fits.
>>
>> I am beginning to think that Isabella made up the name of her father.
>>
>> One piece of information I had from my auntie was that her grandmother
>> Isabella came from a big farm.
>>
>> If anyone can help me I will be eternally grateful, as I would love to find
>> her family and trace them further back.
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Anne in Bolton, Lancashire.
>>
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