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From: "Steve Gilchrist" <>
Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] The Islay Charter of 1408
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 15:51:14 -0700


janna and sue,
thanks for your info on the 1408 events. i find it fascinating to piece
together bits of history, and how it could have affected people's actions.

at some point in all of our researching, we have to realize there's a limit
to how far back, and how much you can find out - beyond that, it seems to be
some matter of speculation and conjecture. if nothing else, the history
helps me put it into some sort of context.

just the revelation that Gilchrists ("slaves for Christ") are descended from
"re-educated Irish captives" in the 4th century is quite interesting. i
guess my ancestors were slaves too - and Irish for that matter!!

even though i'll probably never know who that "captive irishman" was, who
spawned my lineage - but it's incredibly interesting to know at least the
small bits that i do!!
steve

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> Dear Steve,
>
> The Islay Charter of 1408 - sometimes also referred to as the MacKay
> Charter -(also interesting because it was drawn up in Gaelic not Latin, as
> most legal documents were of that time) is in the Register House in
> Edinburgh. See page 97(and succeeding pages concerning the fate of papers
> about Islay) of Freda Ramsay's "The Day Book of Daniel Campbell of
> Shawfield 1767". The story of how all those papers got lost or wandered
> was what prompted me to send the residue, which John Ramsay of Kildalton
> had salvaged, to the Mitchell Library Archives in Glasgow. This may not
be
> the information you are seeking.
>
> By the way, the GRO system really works well. A word of caution, though,
> do not request full extracts of records unless you are fairly SURE that
> they are the ones you want. After making the mistake of being too
> enthusiastic in assuming I had found the right connections, and being
> wrong, I find now it is better to wait and get the full authenticated copy
> from the GRO before going back a generation. There are often clues in the
> full extract that are not apparent from the abstract you first see. The
> GRO tool is very valuable, however, and their authenticated extracts come
> very quickly (allowing for transAtlantic mail). jrb
>
>
>
> At 05:15 PM 7/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >does anyone know about this??
> >
> >"The Islay Charter of 1408"
> >
> >cheers,
> >steve g

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