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Subject: Re: [SCT-ISLAY] Anne Johnston & Colin Campbell
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 14:09:24 EDT

Hi Steffenie,

I found Alexander MacDougall, wife Mary, daughter Mary (unmarried) and
boarder Hugh McArthur in the 1881 Census. Based on this do you think that
maybe Alexander's father was also Alexander, instead of John, and mother
Bella Mae (maiden name unknown)?

1881 Census: Dwelling: Kilbride
Census Place: Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Source: FHL Film 0203562 GRO Ref Volume 541 EnumDist 5 Page 11
Marr Age Sex Birthplace
Alexander MAC DOUGALL M 99 M Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farm Lab
Bella Mae MAC DOUGALL M 75 F Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Alexander MAC DOUGALL M 60 M Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Head
Occ: Farmer Of 60 Ac Of Which 25 Are Ara
Mary MAC DOUGALL M 63 F Killarrow, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Wife
Mary MAC DOUGALL U 24 F Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Dau
Hugh MAC ARTHUR U 24 M Oa, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Farm Serv
John MAC LEAN U 25 M Oa, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Farm Serv
Donald JOHNSTON 15 M Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Herd
Occ: Herd Boy
Margaret JOHNSTON U 18 F Kildalton, Argyll, Scotland
Rel: Serv
Occ: Serv (Dom)
Bella HUNTER 2 F Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
Rel: Grd Dau

I was not able to identify any other children of Alex and Mary in the 1881
Census. Mary McDougall and Hugh McArthur married in 1883, Kildalton (per
Scotlandspeople). Daughter Ann McDougall married Donald McDougall in 1863,
but I can't identify them either in the 1881 Census:

KILDALTON #541 MARRIAGES 1863
# 2 12 Mar 1863 C of S
Donald McDougall 34 Coll McDougall Marion Campbell
Ann McDougall 18 Alexander McDougall Mary Ann Campbell

Another "living and breathing confirmed relation" is Lin Johnston who is also
your 4C1R. She lives in Australia and is descended from your Ann Johnston's
brother Alexander. Another is Peter Matthews (who I think also lives in
Australia) whose ancestor Margaret Johnston is a sister of the John Johnston
who married Mary Johnston who is a sister of your Ann Johnston. Very
complicated sentence! He may turn out to be a blood relative when we find
the relationship between Margaret Johnston's father Duncan (married to Cath.
McIntyre) and our ancestor Alexander (married to Mary Graham). Both Lin and
Peter are on this Islay list too.

Glad to find out that you live in Pennsylvania. I am also trying to track
down a Grace Johnston, illegitimate dau. of my gg-Uncle Dugald Johnston, b.
1868. Grace, according to family lore, "married someone who was an executive
with Bethlehem Steel Works [Pennsylvania] in USA". She was a witness to the
marriage of my paternal grandparents in 1888 at Laphroaig, so she must have
left for the USA after that.

All for now, let's keep searching.

Sheila Kronenberger
Belleville, IL


In a message dated 10/15/2002 9:01:44 AM, writes:

>I LOVE this list! Just when you think you have reached a dead end and
>there
>are no more enlightening tidbits (I do think half the fascination is in
>the
>chase), some kind person comes along with a new tidbit that you never dreamed
>
>of unearthing! Thank you!
>
>And you are the first living and breathing confirmed relation I've come
>upon
>in my searching. Hello, cousin!
>
>Thanks you so much for checking on Anne/Nancy and confirming that she is
>
>indeed the daughter of Alex born at Taicaramagan. I had seen that in the
>
>Kildalton Parish records, but since I had nothing to link her to Kildalton,
>I
>had no idea if she was the right one.
>
>Here's the McDougall connection. Mary was Anne Johnston and Colin Campbell's
>
>oldest child (of 10 kids). I found all the children's births in the Killarow
>
>Parish records. By the way, she, Mary, outlived all her siblings, but
>I'm
>getting ahead of myself. Mary married Alexander McDougall of Kildalton
>on 23
>Feb 1842. I believe that Alex was the son of a John McDougall, but that's
>
>another thread I have yet to successfully follow. Mary and Alex had six
>
>children that I know of, all born at Kilbride in Kildalton. They were:
>Anne 19 Jan 1845
>John 28 Nov 1846
>Colin 27 Feb 1849
>Alexander Campbell 16 Dec 1850
>Dugald 20 Oct 1853
>Mary 6 Dec 1857
>
>Alexander "Jr." was my great-grandfather, married to my g-grandmother,
>
>Elizabeth Gilchrist, daughter of John Gilchrist and Ann Kerr of Port Ellen.
>
>In the early to mid-1880s, Mother Mary, sons John, Colin, and Alex, and
>
>daughter Mary and her husband Hugh MacArthur went to Arran Township, Bruce
>
>County, ONT. I have Mary's obit from 1915. I don't know if her husband
>Alex
>"Sr." also went to ONT, or if he died on Islay before that. I have further
>
>information about the sons and their families, etc. Alex Jr. and Lizzie
>
>Gilchrist were married in ONT a few years later (she apparently finally
>
>followed him out there). Alex Jr. was ranching in Wyoming at that time
>as
>was his brother Colin, and after the wedding, Alex Jr. immediately took
>
>Lizzie back to Wyoming, where my grandmother, Catherine Gilchrist McDougall,
>
>was born a few years later. With the exception of Colin, the rest of these
>
>McDougalls remained in Ontario.
>
>I have some further thoughts on a Tighcaramagan - McDougall connection
>which
>might tie a complete loop among the McDougalls, Johnstons and Campbells,
>
>which I will share later.
>
>Whew! I hope I haven't rambled on too long! As I said, I just love it
>when
>new piece of information enables me to squarely place another piece in
>my
>puzzle.
>
>Steffenie (Kirkpatrick)
>in Downingtown, PA
>
>

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