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From: Ida & Merle King <>
Subject: Re: [Mull] Letter from Arch. McGILLIVRAY Mclean and ? of others from Shiba
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:56:30 -0600
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Hi Anne and All

Regarding this letter from Archibald McG from King twp., Ont to John
McLean at Shiba, Ross of Mull. This might be a long shot.

Have you ever followed up on the numerous persons mentioned in this
letter as being from Shiaba in the 1841/ 1851 censuses?

Somewhere along time ago I was told (before sources were so vital) that
the JOHN McLean brother of Mary McLean Hoff's (Donald) and my (Ann) had
married a unknown McInnis. After reviewing your letter I checked in the
IGI and found the following with John McLean and McInnis:

Descendants of John * McLean
1 John * McLeanb: abt 1790 in Knocknafenaig, Isle of Mull, Argyl,
Sct
.+? McInnism: March 26, 1818 in Kilfinchen, Kilvickeon M115422,0321,
& 7007506, 33
.2 Allan McLean: May 8, 1819 in Kilfinchen 7012005, 26
.2 Donald McLean: August 6, 1821 in Kilfinchen 7012005, 26
.2 John McLean: September 14, 1823 in Kilfinchen 7012005, 26

I then rececked the information I received from Jean Whimp on the
McLeans of Shiaba from the 1841 and 1851 census..

1841 censush/h
4ShiabaMcLean John20Ag lababt 1821
4ShiabaMcLean Allan15abt 1826
4ShiabaMcLean Jessie13abt 1828
4ShiabaMcLean Mary40abt 1801

6ShiabaMcLean Allan28Ag lababt 1813
6ShiabaMcLean Elizabeth25abt 1826
6ShiabaMcLean Catherine3abt 1838
6ShiabaMcLean Niel1abt 1840

8Shiaba h/h 33McLEAN John10abt 1831I don't have who lived in h/h #
33

8ShiabaMcLEAN John60Hand Loom Weaverabt 1781
8ShiabaMcLEAN Marion60abt 1781
8ShiabaMcLEAN Flora25abt 1816
8ShiabaMcLEAN John15abt 1826

1851 census

12 ShiabaMacLeanAllan25UtailorSiaba
12 ShiabaMacLeanJanet16sgrasskeeperSiaba

20 ShiabaMacLeanJohn34cottarKillean
20 ShiabaMacLeanChristian24wToruachrach(Campbell)
20 ShiabaMacLeanMary12dFishnish
20 ShiabaMacLeanJohn10sFishnish
20 ShiabaMacLeanMargaret 8dFishnish
20 ShiabaMacLeanAnn4dFishnish
20 ShiabaMacLeanArchie5msSiaba

23 SiabaMacLeanDonald12sFishnish
23 SiabaMacLeanElen55WmFishnish

As Archibald was writing to nephew John McLean, there's a possibility
that the first family in h/h # 4 (1841) could be the nephew in question.
If that were so then maybe, just maybe I've located the unknown (Mary)
McInnis, (and a connection for us) as well.

I've snipped all information except the names in question below.

If anyone can shed some light on the others please post it through the
list.
thanks
later
Ida

Anne Stevens wrote:

> (Note: the only Archibald McGillivray in King Twp. in 1849 (ref:> Inhabitants of York Co., Ont. 1850) lived on Conc 8, Lot16 and was> married to Mary McGilvary, a dau. of Neil McGilvary Sr., and Flora> McGilvray> (Neil & Flora McG were the gr.gr. grandparents of Anne Stevens).
>
> >From Archibald MacGillvray,> Twp. of King, Ont.> 20 Dec. 1849
>
> Addressed to:> Mr. John MacLean,> Shiba Ross,> Isle of Mull,> Soctland, North Britain.
>
> My dear nephew:
>
> I drop these lines to inform you that we sailed on the 14th of July
> and arrived here on the 12th of August ---being at Quebec---

death of Alex. MacKellar from Lochgilphead

> John Campbell and his wife died and their children are with Neil McGilvray.

Neil McGilvray who left Shiaba (note from Roy: "I think I have him")
and his wife and daughter and the youngest bairn.

Malcolm Campbell and his wife died.

Also and a daughter of Alexander MacDonald of Suie who left Iona.

Robert Campbell who left Shiaba died.

John, my uncle's house where I stayed more than 3 months.

Tell Lachlan that his father is anxious to see him and if he can see an
opportunity to come next year or his son at any rate.

> Tell Donald MacLean (Roy's Note: Mary Hoff's 3x gr grandfather
> (brother of Ida's Ann McLean) that I have not seen Hugh MacLean, his
> brother as yet, but I have seen some of the family; Big Malcolm John
> and Margaret
> (Note from Roy McG: 2 of Hugh McL's kids in Vaughan --? was there
> till 1851 -------undreadable).

I have seen John McGilvray who left Shiaba (Roy's note: =1845 I think),
going to Owen Sound.
Archie his son.

Tell Archie MacKinnon that his brothers are well. Donald
> built a fine dwelling house of a frame, prettier than any bungalow.

> Tell Rachel that I have seen her brothers and sisters and are all
> well. I was there three days threshing to Malcolm

> Tell Catherine McGilvray that her sisters are all well and her
> brother Neil, and as good a farmer as left the Ross.

Tell the soldier that I have seen his brother's son John at Montreal and
are
> all well. I do not rue anything but the scarcity of Gaelic
> preachers. There is none in the township but one Baptist school is
> very convenient and Malcolm is going to school daily.

> Ground Officer nor Donald Drover here to meedle with you.
> (Anne's note: Drover Donald was I think Donald McGillivray of
> Brough? in Ross of Mull, who was hated because he was a government
> man).

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