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From: betty TELFORD <>
Subject: [WIG LIST] stane a' jine and a' that.
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 10:42:16 +0000 (GMT)

My Welsh is better than my Gaelic and that isn't saying much - but , like Breton and Cornish, similar words appear in presumably Celtic derived languages, made difficult when trying to translate early documents and ancient handwriting!
I look forward to hearing what a Jine is. (My husband suggests a joint of meat and butchers do use the word Chine for a joint). Sometimes if you say it out loud you get a clue. If I look in my dictionary of old Cumbrian words I might find it.

The arithmetic works out right in the testament for us oldies who remember pre decimal currency:
(240 pence to the pound sterling (£); 20 shillings to the £. stg; a florin was 2 shillings, a half a crown was two shillings and six pence. Ten "bob" was ten shillings in common parlance in the South of England and a sixpence was a "tanner").

Ten stane (stone - measure of weight) at ten shillings a stone (there are 14 lbs. weight to the stone!) makes 5 pounds (£).
I looked in my dictionaries Gaelic/Welsh/Scots but can't.find much help with the testament -
let's hope variants of measurements don't come up, like Rod, Pole or Perch!!

We have (female) sheep in our back meadow with one (male) called a Tup - which is the equivalent of a Ram.
In Welsh Twp means an idiot but I don't think a ram deserves that.

ps: Just to confuse some of us even more, where some of our family live in Aberdeenshire they speak Doric.

Betty (on the Welsh borders)

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