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From: "Diana L. Clark" <>
Subject: Re: [SIMMONS] SIMMONS
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:25:25 -0600
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Okey, this may be yours:

1850 Pendleton Co, VA census: (North Fork Hills, 50th District)
David Simmons, 27, stonemason
Susan Simmons, 20
Nancy Simmons 6
Sarah Simmons 4
William F. 1
Phoebe Thompson, 24

If your guy is James David or David James, this is likely him. Also, this
would tie in with my Simmons from Pendleton Co., I'm pretty sure.

In the 1860 census of Pendleton Co
David 37, shoemaker
Susan, 43
Nancy 17
Sarah 15
William F 13
Abraham 10
George J 4
Phoebe Thompson, still looks to be 24, but must be 34.

The age differences doesn't matter that much, sometimes neighbors guessed
the ages and told census takers.

Hope this helps, Diana




----- Original Message -----
From: "Okey Simmons" <>
To: <>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: Re: [SIMMONS] SIMMONS


You have the right family in the Pa. info' , that same William Frank married
in Petersburg, Grant Co. 1870. Not long afterward they were in Bedford
Co., Pa. About 1900 they returned.
On the Register of Marriage s it shows his parents as well as hers.
James & Susan is as listed. Nothing else on them. That same register
shows his birth in Pendleton Co. I have yet to find any record of that.
I was told family had a small landholding there but left. Why he left
for Pa. raised his family & then came back is a question I've wondered
about. I found there were 3 SIMMONS men filed for 400 acres in the
Bedford Warrentiees of Land book, page 631 (1771-1893). One of those 3 was a
William. It was roughly 46 yrs. before my William, but something I
haven't looked at yet. Every search I've started has started with the
marriage record.
Checking the census records I also found the same James & family & thought ,
maybe . . .but that William is too old. The marriage register listed his
age 21 yrs. 4 mo., hers as 22.
Thanks for the comeback & for the work you've already done.
OKey




----- Original Message -----
From: "Diana L. Clark" <>
To: <>
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [SIMMONS] SIMMONS


> Okey: I have looked repeatedly through the census for your James & Susan.
> The closest I could find are:
>
> 1850 Norfolk (Independent City) VA.
> James - 34, Cooper, b in VA
> Susannah - 33, b in VA
> Hannah E. - 10
> James H. - 8
> Williamson A. - 7/12
> Charles H. 18
> Elizabeth 14
>
> The only Wm and Martha Simmons I find are in Bedford, PA in 1880, both
> state
> they were born in W. VA. Wm states he is 29, which puts him born in
> 1850 -51 and Martha is listed as 30. This could be why I couldn't find
> another Wm Simmons born in 1849, he came later maybe?
>
> What exactly do you have documentation for that we can definitely use as a
> starting place? Are you sure of the names William and Susan as the
> parents?
> Do you have a general birth year or place for either?
>
> Diana
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Okey Simmons" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2007 7:51 PM
> Subject: [SIMMONS] SIMMONS
>
>
> I seldom post on this site so I guess I'm "new". I read of all the
> names
> each posting, hopefully this might be THE one. Never is. I thought I'd
> try
> again in a new approach. A contact in England claims my
> James
> Simmons is a relative & promised papers to prove same. That was 5 months
> ago. Supposedly there were brothers, James & William SIMMONS. Their
> offspring, another James & William (the way I understand, we talked by
> phone) came to the USA. Hampshire, Hardy & Grant , especially Hardy was
> mentioned by him. My James married Susan (?) date unknown. Their son,
> William Frank, was born Aug. 1849 . This was my g grandfather. He
> married Martha E. Johnston 2 Feb. 1870 in Grant Co. From there to here,
> no
> problem. James & Susan are my "brick wall". Okey Simmons
>
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