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From: "N & K Chestnut" <>
Subject: Re: [SMITH-PA] SMITH-PA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 32
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:38:16 -0800
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Beverly,
Good! It looks as if you are doing your 'homework'.
But may I challenge you to look into the 'owning land' idea. As you seem to know federal censuses don't help much before 1850. However, land records, court records and church records become very important before 1850.
The SMITH name is a 'bear' to research. And I bet you realize that, but you must be oh so careful, so you don't start 'barking' up the wrong SMITH tree.
Have you tried to work back on Dorcas WARING? The SMITH & WARING lines might have something in common, such as a church or the area they came from.
Your SMITH line does sound quite different than mine. Mine start in N. Ireland come to Pennsylvania and some stay in PA., but a couple others move A LOT. Two brothers stay in Sullivan Co., MO. for a time. Then the younger one starts moving as if he were afraid of something until he landed in Oregon. David died in Portland, OR. and lo and behold his older brother, John, died in Portland about 20 years earlier.
My WILLIAMS line seems to be southern; but one of the WILLIAMS females married a William Warren SMITH Jun 1860 in Montgomery Co., IL. They had two sons: John & Alexander SMITH then seven girls. This family is not part of my direct lines.

Kay C.
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From: Beverly Leach
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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SMITH-PA] SMITH-PA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 32


If I have the right John Smith he is buried in Carter Co., Barretts Cemetery and I have the dates from a tombstone recorded by Greenup Co., local cemetery inventory takers.
As he died before 1850, the only thing I can do is speculate about John Smiths in earlier censuses. The 1830, Greenup Co census has one that could be him. The parent county of Carter Co (1838) is Greenup and Lawrence; parent Co of Greenup (1803) is Boyd.
John and Mahalea had 2 (maybe more) sons and one daughter: Joseph Madison born 1924, John A. born 1825 and maybe a Matthew born 1838. The daughter was Theresa born 1843. The son of John (Sr.) was John Allen Smith and he had 3 boys and 3 girls. I have all the census on his family 1850 to 1910 I think. His wife was Dorcas Waring. Does any of this ring bells for you? As for owning land, I have not gotten that information, but bet the second John did as he was a farmer. Maybe it did start out being his.

Joseph Madison Smith was my great grandfather and he migrated up into Scioto Co., OH then over to Clinton Co., IN.
Beverly Leach

N & K Chestnut <> wrote:
Questions
1. how do you know John SMITH birth date?
2. do you have any census records for him?
3. is there a parent county for Carter Co., kY.?
4. how many sons did John have?
5. do you have names for his sons?
6. are you sure of there birth order?
7. did John SMITH have land in KY.?

Kay Chestnut
----- Original Message -----
From: Beverly Leach
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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: [SMITH-PA] SMITH-PA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 32


Seems my inquiry did not come through. I looked to see what I sent out, but could not find anything?? My PA Smith is only a whisp of a possibility. As the story goes the father of my great grandfather is John Smith born 09 Jan 1796 in PA (heaven knows where or who his family was) d. 09 Oct 1848 in Greenup Co KY and is buried in the old Barrett cemetery of Carter Co. His wife was Mahalea Virgin Smith b 19 Feb 1800 in KY died 05 Mar 1856. She is buried in Dupuy, Gray, Greenslate Cemetery in Greenup Co., KY I keep telling the story hoping a crack will open in my brick wall. There is also a rumor he killed a man and was jailed for some time. Do you have any hints or thoughts?
Beverly Leach
Corpus Christi, TX


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