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From: "N & K Chestnut" <>
Subject: Re: [SMITH-PA] SMITH-PA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 32
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 17:12:04 -0800
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Yes, I did hire someone in the area where the courthouse was. Grantee and Grantor indexes, I believe that they are what needs to be check. I hired somebody who lived in St. Clair Co., IL. I live in Hood River Co., OR. They are 'a fur piece apart'. I had a name Rebecca L. ATCHISON, from a marriage record in Washington Co., IL. She was my father's paternal Grandmother. Rebecca had died in 1928 in Walla Walla Co., WA. Her husband had been a James Riley WILLIAMS who had died on the Prairie, traveling for his health, that is all "Riley's" children and grandchildren knew. One of Riley & Rebecca's younger daughters had written down some names and assumed relationships in the 1940's. Several of us worked with those clues from about 1977 until the 1990's. When I came 'on line' I had some very lucky 'breaks'. I found Riley's family. And his marriage record and some possible ATCHISONs to check into. The 1940 notes had said that Rebecca's parents were; John and Lucretia ATCHISON and that Riley's parents were: Amos & Polly Ann WILLIAMS. To make my story shorter, only one of those given names was correct. Rebecca had a brother John and her mother was Lucretia. Riley had a brother Amos and a sister Polly Ann. Lucretia had a husband, Matthew, but there was more than one Matthew ATCHISON. It was courthouse records in Washington Co. and St. Clair Co., IL, that gave me information about Matthew G., his siblings and his father's name, William ATCHISON, who died about 1823. I have written far too much, so I will stop.

Kay Chestnut
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From: Beverly Leach
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Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SMITH-PA] SMITH-PA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 32


Thank you for your interest. I know what you mean about barking up the wrong tree, that is easy enough to do, but seems one thing that helps is they named their children the same generation after generation. I would love to do land ownership research, but do not know exactly how to do that. Do you have some pointers? I am in Corpus Christi and that is eastern KY, not a place I get to go often. I do have a couple of people I can contact there to help with research though. Help with some hints.
Beverly

N & K Chestnut <> wrote:
Beverly,
Good! It looks as if you are doing your 'homework'.
But may I challenge you to look into the 'owning land' idea. As you seem to know federal censuses don't help much before 1850. However, land records, court records and church records become very important before 1850.
The SMITH name is a 'bear' to research. And I bet you realize that, but you must be oh so careful, so you don't start 'barking' up the wrong SMITH tree.
Have you tried to work back on Dorcas WARING? The SMITH & WARING lines might have something in common, such as a church or the area they came from.
Your SMITH line does sound quite different than mine. Mine start in N. Ireland come to Pennsylvania and some stay in PA., but a couple others move A LOT. Two brothers stay in Sullivan Co., MO. for a time. Then the younger one starts moving as if he were afraid of something until he landed in Oregon. David died in Portland, OR. and lo and behold his older brother, John, died in Portland about 20 years earlier.
My WILLIAMS line seems to be southern; but one of the WILLIAMS females married a William Warren SMITH Jun 1860 in Montgomery Co., IL. They had two sons: John & Alexander SMITH then seven girls. This family is not part of my direct lines.

Kay C.
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From: Beverly Leach
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Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2008 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [SMITH-PA] SMITH-PA Digest, Vol 2, Issue 32


If I have the right John Smith he is buried in Carter Co., Barretts Cemetery and I have the dates from a tombstone recorded by Greenup Co., local cemetery inventory takers.
As he died before 1850, the only thing I can do is speculate about John Smiths in earlier censuses. The 1830, Greenup Co census has one that could be him. The parent county of Carter Co (1838) is Greenup and Lawrence; parent Co of Greenup (1803) is Boyd.
John and Mahalea had 2 (maybe more) sons and one daughter: Joseph Madison born 1924, John A. born 1825 and maybe a Matthew born 1838. The daughter was Theresa born 1843. The son of John (Sr.) was John Allen Smith and he had 3 boys and 3 girls. I have all the census on his family 1850 to 1910 I think. His wife was Dorcas Waring. Does any of this ring bells for you? As for owning land, I have not gotten that information, but bet the second John did as he was a farmer. Maybe it did start out being his.

Joseph Madison Smith was my great grandfather and he migrated up into Scioto Co., OH then over to Clinton Co., IN.
Beverly Leach


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