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From: Tim Powys-Lybbe <>
Subject: Re: [SOG] Virgin Net Terms
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 21:56:05 +0000


In message <>
Peter Amsden &/or Derby Stewart-Amsden <> wrote:

> > "All information and material submitted to and accepted by Virgin Net
> > via the Service or that you publish on any public area via the
> > Service shall be deemed and remain the property of Virgin Net. Virgin
> > Net shall be free to use, edit, copy, republish and distribute(for
> > any purpose) any such information and material and any ideas,
> > concepts, know-how or techniques contained in such information or
> > materials. Virgin Net shall not be subject to any obligations of
> > confidence regarding such information or materials except as required
> > by law."
>
> The implications are obvious. If it becomes the property of Virgin net, then
> it is no longer yours. You may end up paying them to use your owm material!!
> Frankly I am astonished that they can get away with this draconian type of
> contract. Certainly no professional photographer or writer who is still sane
> would dream of submitting material under these terms. If you value the many
> years of work on your family history, keep it to yourself.
>
> I wonder what 'the law' actually requires them to do. Do we have any lawyers
> on the team?
>
> Has anyone challenged Virgin net on this issue?

Sounds odd to me that Virgin want to claim ownership of all published
material even if it is libellious or offensive. I doubt their lawyers
will have thought through that one.

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Tim Powys-Lybbe
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