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From: "bouncing betty" <>
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] No Go areas in Johannesburg!!
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 12:34:14 +0000
Please folks, we all have strong opinions on such topics, but they all go
into the archives, making it harder to search for genuine genealogy topics.
>From: "Emjay" <>
>Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] No Go areas in Johannesburg!!
>Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 13:02:26 +0100
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <>
>Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:45 PM
>Subject: [ZA-EC] No Go areas in Johannesburg!!
> > Wow Tombi,
> > You must have lived in some strange areas.
> > There are too many misconceptions about SA and I think that to refer to
> > any
> > city as having no go areas is irresponsible and certainly leaves an
> > exceptionally bad impression of SA with our listers.
>My opinion is that you have surely judged Tombi harshly and I believe
>without knowing the true facts of day-to-day life in South Africa.
>As born and bred South African who has always maintained dying loyalty to
>the country of my birth, but who has now emigrated to England as recently
>January of 2007, I feel that I can safely state that even a person's own
>home in SA is becoming a no go area!
>Why else are there such high fences topped with barbed wire or even
>electrified fencing? Why are all windows and doors barricaded with wrought
>iron burglar guards and gates? Why are people regularly murdered, the lucky
>ones only grievously assaulted, in their own homes? Why is a 6 month old
>baby cold-bloodily shot through the head simply because it cried during a
>Why can one no longer go out for an evening to a restaurant in safety
>without the risk of it being invaded by armed gangs who rob the patrons,
>staff and the business of all their valuables? Even shopping centres have
>been invaded by these gangs with impunity! Why can you no longer park your
>vehicle and come back without the sickly apprehension of finding it missing
>and then counting yourself extremely lucky that it is still there?
>Why is it that it takes the police any thing from 3 hours to 3 weeks to
>attend to a serious incident, if they actually arrive at all? Why the
>multitude of security companies and metro police? Why is there no accurate
>police reporting on crime statistics? Why is it that the Minister of Safety
>& Security tells SA Citizens to stop whinging about crime, and that if they
>don't like it to get out?
>At the risk of belabouring the point I can send you/the-list a copy of our
>letter of intent to the British Government which lays out the crime the we
>have experienced within our family and close circle of friends. Even I
>not believe that it was true when we first compiled it! I must add that I
>would have to add an addendum to cover more incidents which have occurred
>during the last 6 months to family left behind in SA.
>The bad impression South Africa has is as a result of what is happening in
>the country, not because of malicious rumour mongering! Very sad, but true.
>Who still finds it difficult here in England to leave windows and doors
>simply because there are no thick bars across them. Skande!! ;-)
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