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From: patfryk <>
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] KIRK
Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:34:24 +1200
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Ah yes. My Kirk was a Sgt in the 55th Regiment.
But Kirk isn't exactly a rare name.!
So good to be in touch again.
Pat
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From: "Tessa King" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 8:23 AM
Subject: [ZA-EC] KIRK


Hi Pat

Thanks for your kind offer, but I already have a copy of her story so please
don't go looking for it. My Gran was Florence Millicent Kirk married to Eric
Percy Crozier. Flo was the daughter of James Harrison KIRK and Harriet
POLLOCK. James in turn was the son of Robert William KIRK and Elizabeth Ann
STEPHENSON. Her father was James Harrison STEPHENSON and his wife was I
think Caroline Helena Unknown. Elizabeth had a brother names William Henry.

I have no idea how or when Robert William KIRK arrived in SA and he may even
have been born here in abt 1826. Suspect they are of Scottish descent

Robert William and Elizabeth Ann had 5 children:

1. Robert William Stephenson KIRK who married Rebecca Barnes USHER and had 9
children.

2. James Harrison who married the above Harriet and they had 13 children of
whom my Gran was the 11th child of whom one died at the age of 3. This was
the Transkei family! Their son Oliver Charles never married and had a
trading store where from family stories it seems he was murdered by the very
people he had always loved and helped.

3. Elizabeth Ann who never married and died at age 31.

4. Joseph Parker who married Ada Thomasina WOOD (no relative to my George
WOOD family). They had three children.

5. Charles Edward who married Johanna Gertruida Franciena Strydom and had 5
children.

I suspect that Robert William KIRK and Adam KIRK are brothers but cannot
prove it yet. Adam Alexander KIRK married Martha Jane WEBBER.

If there is any info in the book or if anyone has anything on these folk,
all info would be appreciated.

Take care
Tessa

----- Original Message -----
From: "patfryk" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Traders and Trading Stations of the Central and
Southern Transkei - Book


Tessa, I had a long copy of a story about Granny Kirk. I'll look that out. I
was searching Kirk at one time because my MAW ( Mary Ann Wiggill) source for
BROWN references was first married to John Kirk for whom I had no relatives.
But I don't think Granny Kirk was one. she was quite something as I recall.
GOK in which huge Brown collection I have filed her.!! Two Archive boxes
full.
Patricia

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tessa King" <>
To: <>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 5:37 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Traders and Trading Stations of the Central and
Southern Transkei - Book


Hi Patricia

Please could you check whether there is any information on the KIRK family.
Thanks Lynn for the address where one can order the book.

Take care
Tessa


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Whitfield" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Traders and Trading Stations of the Central and
Southern Transkei - Book


Patricia,

kindly check what you have on any Whitfields. Many thanks.

I am attaching another snippet showing some of the many names listed
in the book on traders and trading stores. Because of the size I have
added what was sent to me on one of my web pages on the "Whitfields of
Southern Africa" and this is only a few of the pages from the book.

This can be found by clicking the link below

http://pelejab.page.tl/Traders-and-Trading-Stations-in-the-Transkei.htm

Here is the snippet referred to above:

"Mr. Buss senior had moved to Ntsimba from Isinxagu in the Tsolo
District. He had started trading as an assistant to a Mr. Berndt in
the Amatole Basin. In 1935, he moved to Sinxago as an assistant to the
owner, a Mr. Sansom (who was the father-in-law of Pat Moriarty). He
later bought the business and Mr. Sansom moved to Mabetsha in the
Ngqeleni District. In 1955, Bill Buss, brother to E.K.B, Buss, took
over Isinxagu and E.K.B. Buss moved to Ntsimba.
Next we come to George Bode at Site 255, Mbanga. George’s
great-grandfather, Wilhelm Bode, came out to South Africa after having
fought in the Crimean War. He owned the land now known as Berea in
East London, which he sold to his son-in-law, Eli Pearce. His
great-grandparents moved to Hamburg, Eastern Cape, where they had a
property at Bodeium. His great-grandmother is buried in the German
cemetery at Hamburg; his great-grandfather returned to Germany after
she died. His grandfather, George Franz Bode, ran a cartage business
in Hamburg, Eastern Cape, which he sold when he left for the Transkei.
He had been sent by
Mr. J.J. Irving to go across the Kei and act as an assistant to Mr.
Green, a trader in Butterworth. George was 20 at this time (1873). On
his journey to Butterworth, he stopped over at Toleni at the top of
the Kei Cuttings, where there was a hotel in those days.


Pg 155

Mr. Green’s shop was situated very close to the Gcuwa River, and the
first night George slept in Butterworth the river came down and he
found himself surrounded by water. Mr Green’s business was later sold
to Viedge Bros. From Butterworth he moved to the Tarleni trading store
in the Willowvale District and then to Mbanga, which was then owned by
W.J. Jenkins but was later incorporated into Dyer & Dyer. He later
took over the business for his own account. Previous traders recorded
here were George Franz Bode in 1903 and G. Bode in 1913/1929.
Ian Hawkes had this to say about his grandfather (Ian’s mother was
Eileen Bode, George Franz’s daughter).
“George Franz Bode was born in Germany and came out to South Africa
aged 6 in 1857: he died in 1928, aged 80, and was buried at
Clarkebury. In approximately 1880 he took over the Mbanga store. He
was an astute businessman for his time. At Mbanga he speculated in
maize, there being no price control operating. He kept surplus maize
in pits (isiselo) at various kraals where the soil was suitable for
these pits During years of starvation he sold the maize at a premium.
He amassed property for his Sons and property in Oxford Street, East
London, where Edgars is today (previously Webster’s Tearoom and
Hepworth’s), a holiday home in Clifford Street, Quigney, East London
and a farm in Amalinda, now a suburb of East London. His estate sold
the property in Oxford Street for £49 000 in 1948. The post cart from
Idutywa to Engcobo made regular stops at Mbanga. George Bode ensured
that all the passengers were given free tea and eats on the back
stoep. Rev. Wilfred Benson Rubusana was a regular passenger on the
coach. He was a non-radical representative of the African people and a
founder member of the forerunner of the A.N.C. He was also an author
of African Books for examples Zemk-inkomo-Magqalandini The book drew
attention to African Culture and land dispossession, starting from the
results of Nongqawuse’s prophecies and the downfall of the Xhosa
people. George and Dr. Rubusana had many chats about this and other
current affairs during tea breaks.
George Franz had a Doberman Pincher watchdog called “Ask-it”. When
visitors admired the dog and asked his name, George would say “Ask
it”. This being his dry type of German humour.”

Extracts from the book " Traders and Trading Stations of the Central
and Southern Transkei" by Mike Thompson.


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