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From: shirley paladin <>
Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Florence Emma Harvey
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 21:37:36 +0200
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Transcriptions kindly supplied by Tessa King

Baptist Church, Grahamstown Cory Ref CORY MS 16 850/D1

ORSMOND ??
Charles Orsmond and his wife (all children born at Grahamstown)
George Alexander b. 16 Oct 1839
Emma Amelia b. 23 May 1845
Albina Eliza b. 8 Jul 1847
Walter Charles b. 2 Jul 1849
Edwin Harvey b. 28 Oct 1852
Charles Herbert b. 27 Mar 1860
Ref: Page 57

Just wanted to add a note that the wife of Charles ORSMOND was in fact
Ruth HARVEY b. May 1818 Enfield, Sussex, England d. 2 Sept 1868
Katberg. Charles also had a first initial of W as per other sources.
He was born Aug 1815 Portsmouth, Hampshire and died 11 May 1873.


Grahamstown Baptist Church Register
Cory MS 16 850 D/3 1839-1883

Entry 149
Groom: Nathaneal HARVEY, aged 26, bachelor
Occ & Abode: Merchant of Smithfield, Orange Free State
Bride: Albina Eliza ORSMOND, aged 22, spinster
Abode: Grahamstown
Date of Marriage: 27 May 1869
Minister: Alexander Hay
Witnesses: Walm HAMMOND (not sure of first name), Richard Edwin RUSHLEY or
RUSHBEY
All signed in full


Baptist Church, Grahamstown Cory Ref CORY MS 16 850/D1

HARVEY ORSMOND
Nathaneal Harvey & Albina Eliza Orsmond
Children:
Herbert Charles b. 9 Apr 1870
Ernest John Henry b. 13 Feb 1872 Smithfield, OFS
Lilian Albina b. 21 Aug 1873 Smithfield, OFS
Ref: Page 60


DEPOT     VAB
SOURCE    MHG
TYPE      LEER
SYSTEM    02
REFERENCE 34591
PART      1
DESCRIPTION          HARVEY, ELIZABETH ALBINA. NOOIENSVAN: ORSMOND.
EGGENOOT: NATHANIEL
          HARVEY.
STARTING  19410000
ENDING    19410000


DEATH NOTICE:

1.  Name of deceased:  Elizabeth Albina HARVEY
2.  Birthplace and Nationality: Grahamstown, South Africa
3.  Names of Parents -  Father:  Charles ORSMOND
                                   Mother:             ORSMOND
4.  Age of deceased: 94 years ..... 9 months
5.  Occupation: Husband deceased
6.  Place of Residence:  20 Kuhn Street, Vrede
7.  Married or widowed:  widow
         Name of predeceased spouse:  Nathaniel HARVEY
         and approximate date of death:  died approximately 1905
         Place of last marriage:  Grahamstown
8. The day of the decease: 11th November 1941
9. Where person died:   House: 20 Kuhn Street
                                   Town: Vrede Town
10. Names of Children:  Lilian Albina HARVEY
                                   Florence Emma GRADWELL
                                   Amy Maud KILBY
                                   Margaret NISSEN
                                   Ruby HALSE
11. Left property etc      No

Dated 17 November 1942 at Vrede
Signed by: L A HARVEY Executor


Nathanial HARVEY d 10 Nov 1908 and was buried in Rouxville OFS on 11
Nov 1908 ( Source: Anglican Church Archives, Wits - Rouxville Burials
1908 Page 13 Entry # 103)


DEPOT VAB
SOURCE MHG
TYPE LEER
VOLUME_NO 0
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE H1362
PART 1
DESCRIPTION HARVEY, JOB. EGGENOTES MISS ALDUM, SARGEANT EN
ELIZABETH ANN (GEBORE
GUSH).
STARTING 19010000
ENDING 19010000


DEATH NOTICE:

1.  Name of deceased:  Job HARVEY
2.  Birthplace and Nationality: Devonshire England
3.  Names of Parents -  Father:  Richard HARVEY
                                   Mother:
4.  Age of deceased: 85years
5.  Occupation: Gentleman
6.  Place of Residence:  Smithfield
7.  Married or widowed:  Married 3 times
         Name of predeceased spouse:  1. Miss ALDUM
                                                       2. Miss SARGEANT
                                                       3. Elizabeth
Ann GUSH (widow of James Stewart THOMAS)

         Place of last marriage:
8. The day of the decease: 10 October 1901
9. Where person died:   House: Farm Blometuin,
                                   Town: near Kroonstad
10. Names of Children:  Children:
1st Marriage:

      a   Richard
      b   Nathanial
      c   Dan
      d   Ambrose
      e   Sarah Ann
      f    Albert
      g   Jane
      h   Emma Emily Blake

2nd Marriage:   No children

3rd Marriage:

       i    Joseph John
       j    William Guthrie
       k   Charles Brand
       l    Elizabeth Adeline
       m  Harold Vels

11. Fixed Assets:   House in Smithfield
12. Did deceased leave a will:  Yes - Mutual will

Dated; 31 Aug 1903 at Winburg
Signed by: D HARVEY  (son)


Job and Ruth had 2 other children that died before the age of 2 and
are buried in Smithfield old cemetery.
1. Samuel Charles HARVEY
2. Benjamin Rufus HARVEY



Best wishes

Shirley


On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:02 PM,  <> wrote:
>
> Shirley, please would you post the two Death Notices you mention on the list so that we might all add the iformation into our files.
> Best wishes,
> Tombi Peck
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shirley paladin <>
> To:
> Sent: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 15:25
> Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Florence Emma Harvey
>
>
> Hi Russell
> I do have a copy of Florence's Death Notice and I also have a copy of
> lizabeth Albina,s Death Notice and the information on there confirms
> lbina's husband as Nathanial HARVEY and one of her daughters as a
> lorence Emma GRADWELL.  Florence Emma is not listed as one of Job's
> hildren on his Death Notice but I suppose anything is possible !
> Regards
> hirley
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:28 AM, Russell <> wrote:
>  Dear Shirley
>
>  Have a look at Florence's Death Notice at https://familysearch.org which
>  shows her parents as Job HARVEY and Albina Emma ORSMOND.
>
>  Regards
>
>  Russell
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "shirley paladin" <>
>  To: <>
>  Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:00 PM
>  Subject: Re: [ZA-EC] Florence Emma Harvey
>
>
>  Hi Bev
>
>  According to my information I have a Florence Emma HARVEY b abt march
>  1875 in Smithfield OFS who was one of 10 children born to Nathaniel
>  HARVEY and Albina Elizabeth ORSMOND. Nathaniel was the son of Job
>  HARVEY and Ruth ALDUM and Albina Elizabeth ORSMOND was the daughter of
>  Charles ORSMOND and Ruth HARVEY.  Job HARVEY and Ruth HARVEY were
>  brother and sister which makes Nathaniel and Albina first cousins.
>
>
>  Best wishes
>
>  Shirley
>
>  On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Bev Orsmond <> wrote:
>> Who were the parents of Florence Emma Harvey, Vrede OFS. I believe her
>> mother was an Orsmond. If I am right I am interested in the Orsmond
>> geneology.
>>
>> Many thanks
>>
>
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