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From: "Cliff Jones" <>
Subject: Re: [ZA-IB] HARDING - Dorcas Lydia KING, d/o Henry KING X Mary KEIGHTLY
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:28:14 +1200
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Hi Becky,
Regarding James Harding at West Bank Cemetery, there
is 99% certainty (don't believe 100% ever possible), he is the
James Rackliffe HARDING as per death notice Ref 6/9/521 1213
in Cape Archives and transcribed below.
James Rackliffe Harding
Born Bristol England
Father James Harding
Mother Johanna Harding
Age 74 years 1 month
Occupation Farmer
Widower
No surviving spouse
Previous spouse Dorcas Lydia Harding (born King)
who died 12th June 1889
Date of death 16th April 1905
Where died ??town Frontier Hospital
Children:
William Francis H
Arthur H
Elizabeth Anne ?Siderei? born H
Louisa Alice ?Brivedelet? born H
Lucy Matilda Wilde born H
Henry Edward H
Deceased left "movable property"
Deceased left a will
Signed by Arthur H

Arthur was his son and several children had left
home since his predeceased wife died. her death notice
below:-

1 Name of deceased: DORCAS LYDIA HARDING
2 Birthplace of deceased: GRAHAMSTOWN
3 Names of the parents of the deceased:
Father : GEORGE KING
Mother : MARY KING
4 Age of the deceased: 54 years 2 months days
5 Condition in life ( occupation ):
6 Ordinary place of residence:
7 Married or unmarried,widower or widow: MARRIED
7.a) Name of surviving spouse: JAMES RACLIFE HARDING
7.b) Name or names and approx.date of death of previious
spouse/spouses:
7.c) Place of last marriage:
8 The day of the deceased: On 12.06.1889
9 At what house or where person died: EAST LONDON
10 Names of childrenof deceased, and whether majors
or minors:
WILLIAM FRANCIS HARDING MAJORS
ARTHUR CHARLES HARDING MAJORS
EMILY JANE HARDING MAJORS
GEORGE HERBERT HARDING MAJORS
ELIZABETH ANN HARDING MINORS
LOUISA ALICE HARDING MINORS
LUCY MATILDA HARDING MINORS
HENRY EDWARD HARDING MINORS

While her death notice says father was
a George King there seems a likelyhood this
is incorrect especially if mother was Mary ?
Possibly her parents could be cleared up
by checking on entry 539 Commemoration Methodist
Church, Grahamstown that maybe I have somewhere
or will need to do a list search of old transcriptions
on this list. Anyway this entry gives
born 17 March 1835, baptised 31 May 1835.
I have a note that mother was Mary (nee KEIGHTLY)
and father Henry KING, a shoemaker.
The James Rackliffe story really got a boost after discovering
a much under researched assisted passage scheme involving
at least one ship the "Collingwood" that sailed from Portsmouth
to arrive November 1850 at Port Elizabeth, Cape Colony with
immigrants largely from Wiltshire. James Rackliffe HARDING
(second name his grandmothers maiden surname) arrived on
that ship along with his parents James HARDING (another
example of HARDING intrinsic predisposition in naming
sons with at least one James, drives me batty) and wife
Johanna (nee BAKER). Also his brothers John and Charles
who shortly after arriving, together with both parrents
moved to Estcourt Natal where the parents eventually
were burried (1886 and 1887 respectively). A sister Mary
that was part of the party from Wiltshire married Charles
STRATFORD.
I keep feeling that many who are still battling to
find or confirm possible English or Wilshire ancestors
could have been on the Collingwood or other ships
of that later assisted passage scheme.
By the way James Rackliffe HARDING's
baptism records at Hankerton, Wiltshire, confirms
age at death 74 years 1 month (only about 24 kilometers
from Hankerton to Bristol where he was born). Well,
as I must avoid RSI injuries, must sign off for now.

regards
Cliff Jones
Auckland
New Zealand


----- Original Message -----
From: "Becky Horne" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [ZA-IB] HARDING - Dorcas Lydia KING, d/o Henry KING X Mary
KEIGHTLY


> Hi Cliff
>
> There is one amendment that I must bring to your attention.
>
> Richard L'Estrange +29.1.1951 aged 76. Richard's age should read 78.
> Apologies for the typo folks.
>
> Wasn't there a KING that came out, but was not related to the KING family
> from Cam? I remember reading this somewhere?
>
> Don't forget about the KING family that was posted in September and
October
> last year that is in the list archives. Also, Ellen has posted quite a few
> KING inscriptions. A good way to double check.
>
> Best wishes
> Becky
> Port Elizabeth, South Africa
>
> Researching: HENWICK; HILL; HORN(E); MEREDITH; DEYZEL; LARSEN; WILSON;
> LYNAR; HENNING; STERLEY; THECK; BEST; BRAUN, GREENER; GLANVILLE
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cliff Jones <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 7:05 AM
> Subject: [ZA-IB] HARDING - Dorcas Lydia KING, d/o Henry KING X Mary
KEIGHTLY
>
>
> > Hi List, and Becky,
> > Becky you sent
> > West Bank Cemetery
> > HARDING
> >
> > Corgas Lydia +12.6.1889 aged 54
> > Richard L'Estrange +29.1.1951 aged 76
> > Sarah Mulvina Maud (not further details)
> >
> > I believe, from the death notice of Dorcas Lydia HARDING
> > (nee KING) who died 12.6.1889 that Corgas = Dorcas. She
> > was born May 1835 in Grahamstown, the daughter of
> > (I rember discussing her parentage some time ago) Henry KING
> > and Mary KEIGHTLY who married October 31, 1831 at the
> > St. George's Anglican Church, Grahamstown.
> > Dorcas married James Rackliffe HARDING born March 1831
> > Bristol, England and baptised April 03, 1831 at Hankerton,
> > Wiltshire. His death notice gave his death as April 16, 1905 at
> > Fort Brown, Frontier hospital.
> > This seem to correspond somewhat to Becky's
> > HARDING, James +7.4.1905 aged 74
> > at West Bank Cemetery except age being 70 and day
> > date a bit out.
> >
> > Richard L'Estrange is a puzzle at the moment as is
> > Sarah Mulvina Maud.
> >
> > May be the KING part may click in better later.
> > Seems as many separate KING families as with
> > HARDING families.
> >
> > regards
> > Cliff Jones
> > NZ
> >
> >
> >
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