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From: Sue Mackay <>
Subject: Settler Correspondence - Joseph NEAVE
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 15:10:46 +0100 (BST)


Transcribed by Alan Keightley from CO48/44 at the
National Archives in kew, London

861
Secretarys Office, Chelsea Hospl
20 August 1819

Mr NEAVE presents his Compliments to Mr GOULBURN and
with reference to his Letter of the 17 inst
transmitting a printed Circular respecting emigration
to the Cape of Good Hope Mr NEAVE requests that the
Petition enclosed in Mr REVELL'S letter to Earl
BATHURST of the 14 inst upon this subject may be
returned.

887
Liverpool
Sept 11th 1819
My Lord
An application having been made to your Lordship on my
behalf by my friend Charles Stoker DUDLEY Esq for one
of those grants of land about to be given to those
persons who wish to become settlers at the Cape of
good Hope, I have in consequence received (through
him), from your Lordship's office, a circular desiring
the names, ages &c of those I intend taking out with
me. I therefore presume to become troublesome by
requesting to know if a delay for a few days in
forwarding that list, will be injurious to my hopes of
obtaining that grant. I might have made out many
lists from the numerous applications to be taken out,
but I am anxious to have a little time in order to
obtain characters to those I engage with. May I
likewise beg to be informed if it be necessary that
Mrs NEAVE'S name should appear in the list, as she
will not leave this country under two years, owing to
our having some family affairs to arrange.
I beg to state to your Lordship that I am 30 years of
age and that until I was 17 was with my father, then a
considerable Miller, & Farmer in the South of England,
since which period I have principally been in Banking
Houses in which employment I now am. The sum that I
shall have at my disposal at present, will be about
three hundred pounds. May I also solicit of your
Lordship the favour of being informed if it is likely
that I shall be accepted as one of the settlers if my
list of individuals to be taken out, be such as your
Lordship approves. I would not have ventured this
request had I not held a situation, the loss of which
would be serious to me, did I not go to the Cape, and
I should feel much hurt to be obliged to behave
unhandsome to my employer by giving him too short a
notice of my intention of leaving him, & the money I
intend to thus employ is a interest, and some notice
of my calling it in, to be required by the person in
whose hands it is. My address, My Lord, is "to the
care of Joseph HADWEN Esq, Liverpool" - as early a
reply as may be convenient to your Lordship will much
oblige, My Lord, your Lordships
Most obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

PS Will the settlers have the advantage of Exchange in
the return of the deposit at the cape.

889
Liverpool
Sept 14th 1819
My Lord
I had the honor of addressing your Lordship on the
11th inst requesting to be informed if a delay for a
few days in forwarding the list of names of those who
are to accompany me to the Cape (should I be so
fortunate as to be selected as one of the settlers)
would be injurious to my hopes of obtaining the grant
of land. At the same time I ventured to make two or
three other requests.
I herewith beg to enclose to your Lordship the list
required, trusting it will be such as to meet with
approbation, a finer, or more healthy body of men,
will not, I think, be found proceeding to the Colony.
Most of them have lived several years in their last
places. May I, my Lord, solicit as early an answer as
possible, that I may give as much time to my employer
as I can for him to find another to fill my situation.

I have the honor to be My Lord
Your Lordships most obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

PS your Lordship will be pleased to desire that I
should be direct for "to the care of Mr Joseph HADWEN
Esq Liverpool" & I beg to assure your Lordship of my
readiness to fulfill the terms, or to conform to all
the conditions, upon which His Majesty's Government
have offered to grant lands in the Colony.
JN

Name and Description of the Person taking out the
Settlers:
Joseph NEAVE, Clerk in a Banking House but was with
his father a considerable Miller & Farmer until 17
years of age
Jane NEAVE, 27

Names of the Settlers,Profession or Trade,Age,Names of
the Women,Age,Male Children,Age,Female Children,Age
Robert KIRBRICK,Agriculturalist,21
William JONES,Gardener,21
Thomas PRICHARD,Gardener,23
Thomas MOORE,Mason,22,Elizth. JOHNSON,20,James,16
Rd DWERRYHOUSE,Butcher,22
William WRIGHT,Wheelwright,20
Richard
HUDLESTON,Blacksmith,25,Sarah,26,John,5,Betsy,2
James SIMMONS,Labourer,20
Richard GEARY,Labourer,21
R COPLEY,Labourer,23
Joseph TYLER,Labourer,32
NB James MOORE is the brother of Thomas MOORE and
placed under his protection by his parents. Thomas
MOORE & Elizth. JOHNSON will marry previous to
sailing. Mrs NEAVE does not go out at present.

900
Liverpool
13th Oct 1819
Sir
In compliance with the desire expressed by your letter
of the 30th ult I beg leave to transmit three lists of
individuals about to proceed under my direction to the
Cape. You will observe in them a difference from the
one before sent, as some who had then engaged having
left me and their places taken by others.
I am request by Messrs WHITLEY and HAYHURST to inform
myself if we may be allowed to form ourselves into a
crops [sic] of Militia, as it appears to be the wish
to locate ourselves as near together as possible. If
an additional list to that which has been accepted
under the direction of these gentlemen, and which is
in a state of forwardness be approved, we shall be
able to form one, if not two companies should this
proposition meet the approbation of his Majesty's
Government, would arms and clothing be provided?
I have the honor to be, Sir
Your most obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

913
Liverpool
October 27th 1819
Sir
I had the honor of addressing you on the 13th inst
when I enclosed the returns of settlers proceeding to
the Cape of Good Hope under my direction, but I am
fearful they have not reached their destination, or
that your letter (to inform me of the amount and where
my deposit is to be paid) has miscarried.
I feel more convinced of its being the case as Messrs
HAYHURST & WHITLY'S returns were not forwarded until
some days after mine, and several days have elapsed
since they received instructions where to pay and the
amount of the deposit required from them. The latter
of these gentlemen is now in London, and will have
informed you that we conceive it be, to the mutual
advantage of the whole that our two parties should
locate themselves together, and that we hope such
arrangement will not interfere with the plans of his
Majesty's Government.
I have the honor to be, Sir
Your most obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

915
Liverpool
Nov 3rd 1819
Sir
I fear you will deem me troublesome or negligent,
troublesome in so frequently addressing you, or
negligent because my deposit has not been made. I
have however by this nights mail remited Mr HILL Esq
one hundred & thirty pounds which I believe to be the
sum required from me, for the party proceeding under
my direction to the Cape of Good Hope.
I am fearful there has been some mistake, either my
letter of the 13th ult with the returns has not reach
you, or that your reply stating the amount, and where
my deposit was to be made has miscarried. I have
learned from Mr WHITLY that the deposits are made to
Mr HILL, at the Treasury, which has induced me to
forward mine to that gentleman and by so doing I hope
to have acted correctly.
I had the honor of addressing you on the 27th ult,
saying I was apprehensive of some mistake as I had not
been called upon for the deposit as your favour of the
30th of Sept informing me Earl BATHURST to accept of
my proposal to take settlers to the Cape, & that on my
returns being sent I should be directed where to make,
and what the amount of the deposit would be. May I
beg the favour of a reply, saying if I have done right
in sending the money to Mr HILL. My address will be
"to the care of Joseph HADWEN Esq Liverpool".
I have the honor to be, Sir
Your most obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

[GOULBURN'S notation at the foot of the page: ‘What
has given rise to the mistake?’ to which clerk has
written in pencil ‘It’s all right’]

926
Liverpool
Nov 22nd 1819
Sir
I have to acknowledge the receipt of your letter of
the 12th inst accompanied by one to the Governor of
the Cape of Good Hope, and the regulations to be
observed by the settlers during the voyage, and allow
me, Sir, through you, to assure the Earl BATHURST that
I shall not fail to co-operate with the Master of the
vessel appointed for my conveyance in enforcing
adherence to them.
The last letter which I had the honor to receive from
you, was addressed James, instead of Joseph NEAVE.
Should this mistake of name be in the letter addressed
to Lord SOMERSET I trust it will create no
difficulties on arrival at the Cape of Good Hope.
On the otherside I have given some names which I beg
to have placed instead of those against them, & I fear
I shall be obliged to find some one to fill the place
of WRIGHT the Wheelwright as he now appears
undetermined to go, or to remain in England but I hope
some few days hence will not be too late to change his
name as I particularly want a person of his
discipline.
I have the honor to be, Sir
Your most obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

J. KEEGAN aged 27, gardener, instead of Thomas
[BATHER]
R. N. KNOWLES aged 35, planter, instead of Thomas
PRITCHARD
I. STEEL aged 32, labourer, instead of Thomas MOORE
T. DOWNING aged 21, Cooper, instead of R. DWERRYHOUSE

928
Liverpool
Dec 6th 1819
Sir
In compliance with the desire expressed in your note
of the 1st inst I herewith enclose a correct return of
settlers about to proceed to the Cape of Good Hope
under my direction, and I also beg to return your
letter to Lord SOMERSET that it might be corrected.
May I beg to be informed if the directors of Parties
might not be allowed to take a few pounds each of
gunpowder for private use. There appears to be some
difficulty on this point at the Customs, will it be
necessary to address the Lords of the Treasury on the
subject?
I have the honor to be Sir
Your obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

Names of Men,Age,Profession,Names of Women,Age,Male
children,Age,Female children,Age
Joseph NEAVE,30,Jane,27
Hugh STAGG,40,Agriculturist,Ann,27,,Sarah,1
Rd HUDDLESTON,25,Smith,Sarah,26,John,2,Betsy,5
John KEEGAN,32,Gardener,Jane LLOYD,23
Rd H KNOWLES,35,Planter
Isaac STEEL,32,Labourer
Thos DOWNING,21,Cooper
John FLEETWOOD,20,Agriculturist
Rd GEARY,21,Mason
F G RANN,22,Draper
James SIMMONS,20,Labourer
James TYLER,32,Labourer
935
Liverpool
Dec 26th 1819
Sir
I have again to trouble you with another list of my
settlers but trust I shall not have occasion to
intrude on your goodness any more.
I have the honor to be
Sir
Your obed servt
Joseph NEAVE

Names of Men,Age,Profession,Names of Women,Age,Male
children,Age,Female children,Age
Joseph NEAVE,30
Rd HUDDLESTON,25,Smith,Sarah,27,John,2,Betsy,5
Rd QUILLHAM,35,Farmer,Ann,30,,,Ann,12
John KEEGAN,32,Gardener,Jane LLOYD,23
Rd H KNOWLES,35,Planter
Thos DOWNING,21,Cooper
John FLEETWOOD,20,Agriculturist
Richard GEARY,21,Mason
James TYLER,32,Labourer
F G RANN,22,Draper
James SIMMONS,20,Labourer
Thomas GREGORY,24,Carpenter





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