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From: "Helena Garner" <>
Subject: Re: [ZA-IB] Spencer family-Zimbabwe
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:57:17 +0200
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I do not know if this will be of any help to you.
Helena Garner

My husband's Garner family had a daughter who married a SPENCER in Durban:
b6Caroline GARNER * 1866.02.22, Durban = 1866.04.08, St. Paul's,
Durban, Rev. Lloyd (Sponsers: William Knowles Garner) + 1944-07-21, Durban x
1899.04.17, Robert Henry Spencer * 1860-04-?, Durban = 1860.05.?, Durban +
1936.07.10, Durban, blacksmith, both buried in block K, grave 27, Stellawood
Cemetry, Durban. They lived at 39 Fenniscowles Road, Umbilo, Durban and had
5 children. After Robert Spencer's death Caroline lived at 151 Fenniscowles
Road, Durban. Today we find businesses and flats at these two sites. Robert
and Caroline's daughter, Annie Norah Pike lived at 75 Cherry Ave,. Manor
Glenwood Gardens, Durban, a house that still exists today.

Robert Henry Spencer was the son of Arthur Spencer, a shipwright and Martha
Elizabeth Saunders. Arthur Spencer was the son of Robert Spencer * 1803 +
1855, buried 1855.12.08, and Mary Spencer * 1810 + 1873 from Leeds who came
on the "Aliwal" Arthur married M.E. Saunders * 1837 + 1909 in 1849 When
she died Arthur's whereabouts were unknown, he had'nt been heard of for
15-16 years.

According to "Origin of Durban Street Names" by John
McIntyre, Oct. 1956 Spencer Road in Durban has been named after Arthur
Spencer, referred to as an old Sydenham family, who owned property and lived
at Clare Estate for many years c1Robert William SPENCER
c2Mary Theresa SPENCER * 1891-06-13, Durban
c3Annie Norah SPENCER x Rowland William PIKE
c4David Knowles SPENCER
c5Lancelot Henry SPENCER

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Moyra Joyce
Sent: 17 May 2012 08:17 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA-IB] Spencer family-Zimbabwe

Rod, I don't know if this is the same family but I am trying to help a
friend whose ancestors came from the Natal area and went to Rhodesia and
Zambia. I have very little but Norah Martha SPENCER b 1871
Pietermaritzburg d 5 Apr 1966 Bulowayo married Kokstad to Alexander KING b 9
Jan 1865 Kingland, Tugela d 20 May 1921 Umtali. That is all I have so am
hoping for more info.

Sorry I cant help with your family but thought I would try.


Moyra Joyce

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Subject: [ZA-IB] Spencer family-Zimbabwe

Good Morning to all,
I am trying to complete a section of my direct tree, relating to the SPENCER
family who lived and farmed in or near Gwelo in the then Rhodesia. One of my
g uncles, Alfred Joseph GEBHARDT b 11 Jan, 1889 d 22 Oct, 1941, after the
death of his first wife Adeline Grace FERREIRA, married Alice VAN DER POEL,
no dates. Alice then married a Mr SPENCER and they lived in Rhodesia where
they farmed.
Alfred Joseph's brother Gottlieb Frederick GEBHARDT had bought the farm
Cheshire in the same area and the two families used to visit quite
regularly. In a letter I received from uncle Gottlieb's daughter I learnt
Alice used to give swimming lessons.
The latest information I have is that Alice was in a nursing home in
Waterfall Boven, but that is about 6 years ago, so whether Alice is still
alive today I do not know.
If any lister can please put me in contact with anyone who knew or knows the
SPENCERs I would apprciate it. I am trying to complete that section of my

Regards to all,

Rod g

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