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From: Peter Church <>
Subject: RE: EA JOUBERT (Born CHURCH)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2000 17:32:28 +0200


Hi Fanie,

Unfortunately not, but I would be very keen to find out more. My great
grandfather was called Harry Church but he died in 1949. He had a son
called Harold, but he died at age 32 in 1927. I noticed a reference in the
Aquarius database at the Cape archives to a Harry Reynolds Church which has
a Bloemfontein Reference. The reference is to an apparent marriage to a
M.Willsmer in 1902 and has reference VAB 182 4406/03. Perhaps he was the
father?

Regards,Peter
> -----Original Message-----
> From:Fanie Buys [SMTP:]
> Sent:23 February 2000 08:35
> To:Peter Church
> Subject:Re: EA JOUBERT (Born CHURCH)
>
> Peter
> Do you have any info on Harry CHURCH x 01/10/1949 Villiers, OFS Johanna
> Katarina BUYS ?
>
> Regards
> Fanie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Church" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, 23 February, 2000 12:37 PM
> Subject: RE: EA JOUBERT (Born CHURCH)
>
>
> > Hi Dalene,
> >
> > 1) Fanny Jane Brummer (nee Church) was a sister to Ellen Anna and
> daughter
> > to the main East Cape progenitor John Charles Church. She was probably
> about
> > 6th oldest of 13 children.
> >
> > 2) The information in 'SA Genealogies' on Church is not that accurate
> and
> I
> > am unsure how one goes about giving the correct information for it to be
> > updated. There were essentailly two main progenitors of the Church name
> in
> > South Africa: James Luke, the 1820 settler who became Cape Town based
> and
> > John Charles whose family were farmers on the Eastern frontier. I am
> pretty
> > sure that William Henry Church is actually one of John Charles's 13
> children
> > and not a separate progenitor as shown in 'SA Genealogies'. Likewise
> > Frederick Christopher and Mathew James Church were sons of James Luke
> and
> > not seperate progenitors.
> >
> > 3) The only FW Church I know of is Frederick William Church born 1860 in
> > Swellendam. But I am confused that he would be in Lady Grey, since
> > Frederick William is from the James Luke branch of Churches(West Cape)
> and
> > not John Charles(East Cape). Do you have idea of when this FW Church
> lived?
> > There were some photographer/watchmaker types in the James Luke branch
> and
> > they all lived in the West Cape, but the East Cape Churches were largely
> > farmers. I would be very interested in any other information you find
> > regarding FW Church.
> >
> > Regards,Peter
> > > ______________________________
> >

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