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From: Abbott Henry <>
Subject: RE: Bristol Castle (Henry Abbott)
Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 14:30:48 +0200


Thanks Jo!

Some-one on the Bristol list informed me that only part of the
Castle was demolished and that the remaining buildings was used
as cheap housing. "Your John Abbott would most likely have been
born in one of the ancient parishes, called Castle precincts. This
was a small area within the walls of the castle. It was not an
ecclesiastical parish, the residents would have used either
St Peters [to the west] or St Philip & Jacob [to the east]."

regards,
Henry

> -----Original Message-----
> From:Jo Taylor [SMTP:]
> Sent:30 May 2000 13:54
> To:
> Subject:Re: Bristol Castle (Henry Abbott)
>
> Dear Henry (& William),
> Don't think there was a 'Bristol Castle' ship, here
> http://www.maritimematters.com/union-castle.html is a very informative
> site
> about the Union Castle line - there are many other Castle names. The Great
> Western Railway did have a locomotive named 'Bristol Castle', so the
> absence of
> the castle itself wasn't an obstacle!
>
> Here http://www.about-bristol.co.uk/old-02.html are some pictures and info
> about
> Bristol Castle.
>
> Bristol & Avon Family History Society:
> http://www.cix.co.uk/%7Ekgroves/ba/index.html
>
> Genuki pages for Bristol:
> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/Bristol/
>
> The local pronunciation is more like "Bristolol" - the 'L' being
> pronounced
> twice, not missed off altogether! - and the 'T' quite soft. If one had a
> West
> Country accent but NOT Bristol, e.g. Somerset or Devon, it would sound a
> little
> more
> like "Brist'l" but a person with a neutral 'Queen's English' type accent
> would
> say "Bris-tul".
>
> HTH
> Jo Taylor
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > hello henry
> >
> > My 1842 edition of Lewis' "Topographical Dictionary of England and
> > Wales" describes bristol as being "a city and county of itself,
> > ....between the counties of Gloucester and Somerset, into both of
> > which the town extends..." There was never a parish named
> > "Castle" in Bristol and Lewis(p.380) says "Cromwell soon after
> > [the capitulation of the Royalist force] ordered the castle and
> > fortifications to be demolished". (p.385): "Of the ancient
> > fortifications, the tower gateway, a plain arch at the end of John
> > Street, and St John's gate, under the tower of St John's
> > church...are all that remain."
> >
> > Not surprisingly, there is still a Castle Street in Bristol.
> >
> > Bristol is usually pronounced as written, but some ancient
> > documents call the city "Bristow", which probably indicates the
> > local pronounciation. The surname Bristow derives from this.
> >
> > Because of the total destruction of the castle, it seems rather
> > unlikely that there would have been a ship of that name!
> >
> > with best wishes
> >
> > William
> >
> > On 29 May 00, at 13:09, Abbott Henry wrote:
> >
>
> > > A fresh source list my "brick wall" as:
> > > John ABBOTT, b. 28-2-1820, Bristol Castle
> > >
> > > I know there is the Castle in Bristol and Castle park.
> > > Is there a parish called Castle?
> > > Could it be a ship called "Bristol Castle"?
> > > About the pronunciation, I am just curious,
> > > is Bristol ever pronounced as almost "bristle"?
> > > That one seems to come fairly naturally to me.
> > > Maybe I am just lazy!
> > >
> > > All help greatly appreciated!
> > >
> > > Warm regards,
> > > Henry Abbott
>
>
>
>
>
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