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From: Doug & Pat Frykberg <>
Subject: Re: [ZA] 1820 and all that ...
Date: Tue, 07 May 2002 04:38:47 +1200


Well I did go back to England to find my 1820 family. Through the LDS I
traced them to London and New Shoreham. I found documents about my man's
involvement and survival at Waterloo (not long before of course) and of his
eldest spinster daughter who continued to live in London. He was
illegitimate and took his mother's name, and appeared to have only one
sister and the line ended there.
But I agree with Gerda. It pays to advertise there in UK, because family of
my later arrivals in South Africa have been found and a huge, but huge
family of descendents are now in constant touch and it is SO exciting. The
Americans are very good about this "before mayflower" or Ellis island
search, and their genealogies are quite enormous. There was life before
1820!
Pat
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From: Gerda <>
To: <>
Date: Tuesday, 7 May 2002 04:14 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA] 1820 and all that ...


>Hi Dave,
>
>It is a question that I have often asked myself, but from a Dutch
>(Netherlandic) perspective. Mentioned it on a couple of lists over there
and
>ever so slowly people are becoming aware that they may be able to fill
>insome gaps in their collections.
>
>Since the descendants of these absent persons don't live in the country of
>origin they are not particularly missed, don't crop up in registers and
are
>most likely presumed to have died young and not worth following up. I
>always thought that this was particular to the poorer people who only got
>their birth, marriage and christenings of children in the registers, but
>recently I read a letter about a whole bunch of important Prentices that
>suddenly disappeared from the British registers. Since there were too many
>missing all of a sudden, they were located fairly quickly - in America.
>
>The second reason that missing people are not followed up is that many
>people only do research in the direct line, and won't miss anybody who is
>not directly related.
>
>You have to put the thought in the right places, though. Start advertising
>short lists of the names of people who settled in South Africa on the
>English lists, and pretty soon the idea may catch on.
>
>Gerda
>
>
>
>> Hello everyone
>>
>> I have a silly question for the real Historians ...
>>
>> I have had the opportunity (not one that I relish), of re-entering all
>> my records onto a brand new computer with a brand new
>> programme - goodbye to my old and incompatible Apple IIe which
>> has handled my thousands of entries (in bits and pieces), for nearly
>> 15 years. As a result, I am now more aware of a broader picture -
>> quite humbling to learn something from one's own forgotten records!
>>
>> A thought for you all - some of us have 1820 British Settler
>> ancestry, which is fairly well documented in older and more recent
>> publications, not to mention the CO records. Why is it that so little
>> seems to be known further back about the families of these
>> Settlers ... or why should 'my' history start in 1820? Sure, there
>> are exceptions but they are few. We strive so hard to push the
>> boundaries back from this end, so why do we seldom hear from our
>> British counterparts, striving to find a missing family member who
>> came to SA in 1820? Were those few thousand who arrived just a
>> drop in the ocean at that time ... an insignificant event in history?
>>
>> Pleased if someone would set me right ...
>>
>> Dave
>
>
>
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