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From: "V NIEDERBERGER" <>
Subject: Fw: [ZA] Fw:
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 23:36:58 +0200


Dear Mike

Thanks for the reply. I have Sampson King Muir and his wife Josphine Lina
Muller on my database. The most amazing thing is that records for the
eastern Cape and Transkei are sketchy, yet the same family names keep
cropping up there. Van Heerden, Muller, Griffiths, Muir, Anderson,
Alexander, du Plessis, Potgieter, Mundell to name a few, and even a number
of voortrekker names spring up there - Maritz comes to mind. Many British
families, like Muir, originate in the Eastern Cape regions from the 1820
Settlers who were given grants of land by the Cape British Authorities, as
well as German communities.
Where does Wattrus fit in, Mike? How are you connected? Are there any du
Plessis' in your family? I was given information about an Andries Jacobus
du Plessis [my great great grandfather's names-for whom I am searching] who
married a Mundell girl. I was not given the source, nor any dates and have
not been able to check it out, but the point of interest here is that
Sampson King Muir's parents were John Winter Muir *11.9.1847 in Grahamstown
and [2nd marriage] Anne Mundell *25.4.1854, ~14.5.1854 at St John's. Fort
Beaufort, Eastern Cape, the daughter of James John Henry Mundell and Ann
McCallaghan.

I would love to know more about your family. I love The List, it is great
to be able communicate info this way!

Regards

Viv


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Wattrus #8" <>
To: <>
Sent: 12 December 2002 12:36
Subject: Re: [ZA] Fw:


> Hi Viv
> I have a connection to MUIR through Sampson King MUIR who married
Josephine
> Lina Kathrina MULLER.
>
> Best wishes
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: V NIEDERBERGER <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 10:45 AM
> Subject: [ZA] Fw:
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Greetings Fellow Genealogists
> >
> > New to 'The List', but not to genealogy, I wish to tell you that my Mom,
> Gloria Joey Frances du Plessis, nee Jacobs was an avid genealogist for
about
> 45 years before she passed away on 9th August this year. Mom was healthy
> and strong and passed on without prior illness, nor warning to her family,
> who love her dearly, from brain stem stroke within 4 days. Her input into
> the LDS libraries and other brons will be really missed, I know. My
sincere
> sympathies to April Blakely and her family, I know how you are feeling
right
> now as we are all still reeling in shock. But great news about the new
> little one - congratulations!
> > Mom and I have spent the last 30 odd years seeking my great grandfather
on
> my fathers' side of the family - du Plessis. We suspect that his names
were
> Andries Jacobus du Plessis, born possibly from 1850 to 1860-ish, wife
> unknown. One of his son's we suspect was Philip or Philippus who married
> into the Muir family, in the Eastern Cape or Transkei. Philip's brother,
my
> grandfather, was Willem Frederick du Plessis *1886 and + 1850, buried in
> Umtata,married to Hilda Augusta Arnold, my grandmother. They lived in the
> Lady Frere area, close to Queenstown, where my Dad was born in 1922, named
> Andries Jacobus du Plessis. His was one of the few du Plessis families
who
> had English as their home language, although his father was typically
> boertjie. I passed through Queenstown and Lady Frere a month ago only to
> find that most of the graves in Lady Frere have been destroyed. If anybody
> out there has any info at all, however small and seemingly irrelevant to
> share I would be most gra!
> > teful.
> > The other SA families that I am researching are;
> > Black, Bain, Muir, Alexander, Johnston, Smith, Arnold, Berger, Lorenz or
> tz, Wait, Jacobs, Rautenbach, Viljoen, Trafford, Stanton, Pringle, Dodds,
> Corbett, Rodgers, Glenister, Waters, Gray, Kymdell.
> > Well, actually, the list goes on and on as I do not stop my family
> research at du Plessis and Jacobs [my parents] and I have a rather large
> database on PAF 5, of most of the families connected in any way to mine,
SA,
> Dutch, German, British etc. I also have the complete collection of South
> African Genealogies by Dr Heese up to the latest [Pi-Q], as well as a
number
> of other books, so I am able to offer assistance to anyone on 'The List',
> although, sadly, listed info is not always accurate.
> > I realise this is a long letter, but one last request to any of the du
> Plessis families out there. I am currently involved with a Professor at
> Stellenbosch University in the research of all du Plessis families for a
du
> Plessis book which we hope to publish in the near future. This book will
> hopefully be as near to absolutely correct and accurate, and up to date,
as
> possible. We need your data, du Plessis', as far back as can be
remembered!
> Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require further details.
> >
> > Best regards to you all,
> > Viv Kymdell
> > [PS In case you're confused by V Niederberger, that is my 1st marriage
> surname - my alias!]
> >
> >
> >
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