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From: Elizabeth Willoughby <>
Subject: Re: [ZA] A Pretoria Question
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2003 13:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <20030726191754.15953.qmail@web41104.mail.yahoo.com>


Thank you for quick reply! Another question. I located the appeal on the National Archives website (Transvaal territories). I have found other criminal cases listed in the National Archives as well. They are stated in the archives in the following manner:
TAB
SOURCE WLD
TYPE LEER
SYSTEM 01
REFERENCE 245/1931
PART 1
DESCRIPTION CRIMINAL CASE. REX VERSUS WILLEM VISSER AND PHILIP RICHARD LEE.
STARTING 19310000
ENDING 19310000

I know that my RC Lee was sentenced in December, 1953, yet in a search from 1949 to 1955, I can find no reference to his case. Dennis states that cases decided by a magistrates court are not indexed in the archives. What makes the above case different from the case I am seeking? Wouldn't all criminal cases be tried in a magistrate's court?

Thanks,
Liz W.

Elizabeth Willoughby <> wrote:
Good afternoon List,
Dennis was kind enough to locate a file for me that concerned an appeal for a RC Lee. Apparently, he has been imprisoned for some unknown offense and had his appeal refused. The document names the case as REGINA v. RC LEE. Does Regina mean anything to anyone from the area? Would it indicate a govt. institution or area? The case is also referenced as REX v. RC LEE. Any help would be appreciated.

Warmest regards,
Liz

Patricia Frykberg
wrote:
My daughter did anyway when she was married though her children have their
father;s surname.
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elizabeth Willoughby"
To:
Sent: Sunday, 27 July 2003 01:35 AM
Subject: Re: [ZA] Being PC in History??


> Gerda, You mean to say that in the Netherlands, when a woman and man
marry, the woman retains her maiden name? Very interesting, I LOVE IT!!!!!!
>
> Liz
>
> Gerda Pieterse wrote:
>
> In the Netherlands people have LAT relationships. I believe that is a type
> of common-law marriage similar to partnerships. A woman always keeps her
own
> name in the Netherlands as well.
>
> I have noticed that they have changed the format from spouse to partner in
> many BMD newspaper announcements.
>
> regards
>
> Gerda Pieterse
> Richards Bay
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Dods"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [ZA] Being PC in History??
>
>
> > Pat,
> > 57 years WOW!, congradulations.
> > Referring to each other as husband and wife is not
> > unPC.
> > The nice young married couples you say who refer to
> > each other as partner, shows you that in their eyes,
> > there is not a great deal of difference between
> > partners who registar their union with the government
> > and those who do not, it being a matter of personal
> > choice, not a difference in level of committment.
> > Steve,
> > you are correct that there are many kinds of
> > partnerships. I think the term sex partneship maybe a
> > bit offensive to many of those who are in such
> > relationships.
> > Life partner is perhaps a better term, having a
> > partnership with someone you are sharring part of your
> > life with, sex is often part of the relationship, but
> > not always and not usually the prime component, except
> > in very short term relationships and those would not
> > be generally regarded as what was once known as common
> > law marriage, which is the subject of our discussion.
> >
> > John Dods, NZ
>
>
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