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From: Sarah <>
Subject: [ZA] Re: SOUTH-AFRICA-D Digest V03 #481
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:12:15 +1200
References: <200309091203.h89C3Pwe016672@lists5.rootsweb.com>


There was a baboon called John who was taught to pull the signal levers
on a station for a person who had had his legs amputated. He did this
for 9 years until he died (the baboon that is)
Sarah
> Hello, all
>
> "Just Nuisance" sparked a memory: I seem to recall that the dog in
> question was a stray that used to travel between Simonstown and the City
> on the suburban trains, and was adopted by the naval personnel based at
> Simonstown. There was a picture of him with a naval cap on his head and
> his tongue hanging out which was most appealing. The story appeared
> in a paperback and was current when I was a child in Cape Town; I must
> have seen it among the books of my uncle and aunt who lived in Rosebank
> with my grandmother for much of World War II. From my recollections of
> the book, he was a thoroughly nice mutt who was kept to the end of his
> life by the Navy, and received a sort of military funeral on his death.
> But I don't remember exactly when all this was, except it would
> certainly have been over 50 years ago.
>
> Margaret, whereabouts are you in Melbourne?
>
> Andrew, also in Melbourne (Heidelberg)
>
> On Monday, September 8, 2003, at 09:54 AM, Margaret Cox wrote:
>
> > Hi Joan,
> >
> > I have a childrens' story book, "South African Animal Adventures" by Jay
> > Heale, a Struik Timmins publication, ISBN 0-86978-553-2, which has this
> > story, called "Jack the Signalman". No reference to military service in
> > this
> > story, but another story, "Just Nuisance", chronicles a a Great Dane's
> > time
> > in the Navy!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Margaret
> > in Melbourne
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "reallyspecial" <>
> > To: <>
> > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 4:06 PM
> > Subject: [ZA] Jack, the Army Baboon
> >
> >
> >> Can anyone shed any more light on a baboon called Jackie that became a
> >> private in the South African army in World War 1. He apparently
> >> participated in the victory parade on a tank gun. I haven't been able
> >> to find anything further, only the above information in a book of
> >> amazing animal facts for kids.
> >>
> >> Joan
> >>
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> Subject: Re: [Re: [ZA]
> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 21:39:32 -0400
> From: Keith Meintjes <>
> To:
>
> The first entry at Google:
>
> http://www.simonstown.com/tourism/nuisance/nuisance.htm
>
> Best wishes,
> Keith
> ===========
>
> Andrew Rodger <> wrote:
>
> Hello, all
>
> "Just Nuisance" sparked a memory: I seem to recall that the dog in
> question was a stray that used to travel between Simonstown and the City
> on the suburban trains, and was adopted by the naval personnel based at
> Simonstown ...
>
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> Subject: Re: [ZA] High Court Judges, CT
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 19:51:29 +1000
> From: "Lloyd" <>
> To:
>
> Must be a co-incidence,my mum is Daphne Scott and my dad Basil Scott.
>
> Cheers
> Lloyd Scott
> Australia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David and Mary Bossenger" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 1:34 PM
> Subject: [ZA] High Court Judges, CT
>
> > Hi Lists,
> > This is a posting to both lists. A lady on the KENT list is looking for
> > two relatives in CT. She cannot remember their names but met them in
> 1975
> > when he was +-69 years old. His first name was Basil and hers was
> Daphne.
> > She says that he was a retired high court judge. Does anyone have any
> > idea as to surname of the couple.
> > I am trying the easy route before doing it the difficult way. I am sure
> > that some lister will pull a rabbit out of a balaclava.
> > Regards,
> > David B
> >
> >
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> > http://www.CyndisList.com/
> >
> >
>
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> Subject: [ZA] Re: Glad to Help!!!
> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:21:48 +0100
> From: Francois <>
> To:
>
> For Sha Redfern, to whose address I cannot get through, so I mail the list.
>
> > Sha wrote, inter alia:
> >
> > My ggg Walter Wallace George b 1883 Birmingham was a military man.
> > However I do not know which regiment he served in. These are some of
> > the facts that I do know. He served in the WWI. He was originally
> > ordered to India but at the last minute was sent to Hong Kong THREE
> > YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST WORLD WAR. My gf (Frank William George) was
> > born on board ship in Hong Kong in 1911. I cannot explain why my ggm
> > (Gladys Ivy Davies) was travelling with him at the time. Walter
> > was very musical. He played the Sax, Trombone as well as the
> > Drums. The family immigrated to SA in about 1920. He might have
> > served in South Africa - Cape Town as my grandfather Frank was a
> > Drummer in the Dukes 1930. Walter died in Johannesburg in 1931.
> >
> > I am hoping that you might be able to help me or at least point me in
> > the right direction.
> >
> >
> > Sha Redfern
> >
> > Hi Sha,
>
> I am glad to help, but on one condition: Please send me a reminder to go
> to Kew Public Record Office, and do so once a week for three months. If
> you don't, it won't get done because I have a disability that impairs
> memory and concentration. You must remember for me, and at the same time
> bear in mind that I live a pretty full life too. One day I will go to
> Kew to search military records anyway, to get something I want, and then
> I'll put your ggg in the shopping basket too. No sweat.
>
> Second, please send me a table of data for _each person_ in the game:
> Name
> date and
> place
> of birth
> AND SOURCE OF INFORMATION (eg his mom told me, or birth cert ificate of
> ref no, etc)
>
> Date
> place
> of babtism
> AND SOURCE
>
> Date
> place
> of marriage
> AND SOURCE
>
> Date
> place
> of Death
> AND SOURCE (death NOTICE and death CERTIFICATE)
>
> Passport number. SA ID number.
>
> list parents by full name with date and place of birth
> list siblings by full name with date and place of birth
> list children by full name with date and place of birth
>
> The easiest way to send me this stuff is to load it into a PAF file,
> which can be downloaded free from www.familyhistory.org
>
> Genealogy is about building on the data we already have, and it ties my
> hands to operate in a data vacuum. On the other hand, I find it very
> annoying to go searching for a document that people already have. It's
> like teaching a pig to sing: It wastes time, and it annoys the pig. I'll
> happily search for stuff you do not have. Please let me know which is which.
>
> About what you have told me: 1911 was three years before the start of
> the first world war. Was Walter Wallace George b (dd?mm?) 1883
> Birmingham a soldier before the war? If he was, it would not have been
> unusual for him to take his family along on a foreign posting. What Rank
> did he have? Any military pension? Was he rich or poor? His job after
> the war? What happened to his medals, because everybody who goes to war
> gets a medal to show that you were there (Some people got lots of these
> just because they moved around a lot). "immigrated to SA in about 1920"
> from where? Walter died in Johannesburg in 1931, and was buried at what
> cemetery? Grave number? Tombstone inscription, or no tombstone? Grave
> register details? Who lies beside him? Any relatives (George or not) in
> the same graveyard? Who is alive who knew him, and what can they tell
> you about him by phone?
>
> The rule is one person per paragraph, so that personal pronouns refer
> back to the only one guy.
>
> Does Gladys Ivy Davies not count?
>
> Frank William George, born on board ship, Hong Kong, dd? mm? 1911. Did
> he have a British passport? Should I search the registers of people born
> on ships? What ship?
>
> Please send me data, or tell me that you don't have it. Either way, I'll
> try to build on what you have.
>
> Francois Greeff.

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