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From: "Tombi Peck" <>
Subject: Re: [ZA] Eva/Krotoa & Pieter van Meerhof
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:48:53 +0100
References: <007601c5cf7f$b8872cf0$5d53ef9b@muareen> <> <009101c5d0b9$f90c30a0$4153ef9b@muareen>

Ever fascinating! I haven't found anything rich and interesting like that in
my tree!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maureen Brady" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [ZA] Eva/Krotoa & Pieter van Meerhof

> Hi Delia
> Given your long association with this List, I'd be surprised if you don't
> recall how often in the past I've mentioned that I'm a descendant of this
> union myself. For instance, just a few years ago, we had a long debate
> on-List about the precise location of Meerhof's Kasteel (if anyone else is
> interested, it's all in the List's Archives).
> I've since discovered I'm triply descended from Krotoa & Pieter, from
> daughter Pieternella who married Daniel ZAAIJMAN, once down my Oupa
> ZAAIMAN's line, and once each through my Ouma BENADE's maternal and
> lines -- and I suspect, if I keep on digging, I may yet find more lines
> connecting back to Krotoa & Pieter. I haven't yet worked my way up every
> single branch.
> My grandparents were therefore distant cousins three times, although they
> may not have been aware of this. As an illustration of what I'm interested
> in finding out, in the course of researching my Ouma's direct lines, I
> a VAN ZIJL four generations back from my mother's generation. One of her
> sisters married a VAN ZYL, so they were also distant cousins. This
> my family back to Olaf BERGH and Angela van Bengale by blood and not only
> marriage. Now I'm curious to see just how many cousins I can connect with
> through the List, and to begin to build a database of all these
> interconnections, although I have yet to work out how I'm going to cope
> the technical challenge this will involve! I need hardly point out what a
> massive undertaking this will be. I have no clear vision of where this
> project may lead; all I can do is make a start.
> Which reminds me, does anyone know where Mansell Upham is these days? He's
> double descendant and has done a lot of research on Pieter van Meerhof's
> Danish background. I recall he said, quite some time ago, he was planning
> publish a book about this -- I'd love to know whether he still intends to
> so, and when, unless he already has and I'm simply not aware of it. Dr
> Heese, author of "Groep Sonder Grense", is another descendant I'm know of.
> Let me also take this opportunity to thank those of you who have already
> sent me your lines of descent from Krotoa & Pieter off-List over the past
> few days, as well as for your "votes" about the Master's website (we're up
> to 17 Ayes, but still
> no response).
> Ons doet maar voort!
> Regards
> Maureen
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Delia Robertson" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Friday, October 14, 2005 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [ZA] Eva/Krotoa & Pieter van Meerhof
> > Maureen,
> >
> > At 12:53 AM 2005/10/13, you wrote:
> > >I'd like to conduct an informal survey among current List subscribers,
> > >contributers and lurkers alike.
> > >
> > >Do any of you descend from the "Hottentottin" Eva/Krotoa and her
> > >Pieter VAN MEERHOFF (married 1664)? Either your own ancestry or that of
> > >your spouse will do.
> >
> > Would you mind telling us why you are doing this survey?
> >
> > Thanks much.
> > Delia Robertson
> >
> >
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