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From: Jorge Estreux <>
Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Same sex marriages.
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 03:46:02 +0000 (GMT)


Fred,
I think you might have just lost a tooth on that bullet. Just Googling, I found a few references where it is recognised in the world. and maybe soon in more places. As Genealogists we have to adapt our records to what is recognised and legel in some places. Trust me, we will all have to deal with this in our records in time to come. Let,s put oure own views aside and deal with what is reality.

Jorge


----- Original Message ----
From: Fred MacKay <>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, 28 November, 2006 1:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Same sex marriages.


Hi! there Folks,

I am going to bite the bullet here.

I have very definite views on this subject, which I won't air here.

There is no such an event as a 'Same Sex Marriage'.

However the reason why you cannot enter a relationship where two males or
two females co-habit, is there is no provision in LAW for this relationship
to be recognised by the state other than as co-habiting.

Thankfully the databases also recognise the state stance.

Best wishes,

Fred.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralph Anderson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:04 AM
Subject: Re: Same sex marriages
> Yes Rod, This is similar to a common problem we also have of recording
> children whose biological parents may not be known, or whose identity
> their
> adopted parents refuse to divulge. I don't know if there are any rules
> promoted by genealogical societies, but in general one is in the hands of
> the company whose recording system one is using. Legacy for example merely
> provides a means of tagging a given status to a child, but otherwise he or
> she is treated as a normal relative. As far as I know there is no
> provision
> for same sex marriages and one would need to designate one of the couple
> as
> the male and the other female to get by. As for their subsequent children
> if
> any, surrogated or adopted, whatever, use of the Legacy status list might
> be
> the only solution. I for one would welcome an agreed outcome for this
> debate.
> Ralph.

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rod Gebhardt" <>
> To: <>; <>
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 5:23 AM
> Subject: Same sex marriages
>> Good Morning to all you LISTERS,
>> I am running a Genopro program and have been stumped by events in our
>> daily lives. HOW TO RECORD COUPLES OF THE SAME SEX co-habiting
>> permanently. My system will not allow it, so how do I record these
>> people?
>> Has anyone running any other systems experienced the same problems? In
>> fact in genealogical terms how should these relationships be recorded? I
>> now have two instances of this nature and have had to record them in the
>> notes of the linked family member.
>> Any advice out there?
>> Thanks to all,
>> Rod.




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