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From: Rebecca Williams <>
Subject: Re: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Look-up: St. Cyprian's Kimberley Baptism Records
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:20:51 +0200
Looks as if Cecil Bertie Wallis TURNER was definitely born to Joseph Ward TURNER and Annie TURNER (nee GIBBS). I have found his death registration in Q4 1889 in London, England - name stated as Cecil Bertie W TURNER. His age is 0 - so he was born earlier that year (1889) in South Africa. This means that at least Annie travelled back to the UK in 1889 with Dulcie and Cecil. Joseph's whereabouts still to be found. Any help with this from someone in South Africa would be great.
On Sep 24, 2011, at 8:21 AM, Rebecca Williams wrote:
> Hi Ian,
> That's fantastic. Have just looked this up on Ancestry.co.uk. Strange that my searches didn't turn this up before! Wonderful as it's certain this is her at her address at time of marriage matches that of the homestead I am aware of. It's unfortunate that Ancestry.co.uk does not have access to South African records even for those with a world subscription. Maybe they will purchase then someday soon. Thanks so much for your help. The marriage cert mentions that her father Joseph was deceased by 5 Jan 1919. I wonder whether he died in South Africa. Will have to investigate.
> Once again many thanks,
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Ian Thirlwell wrote:
>> I haven't found a baptism record for either child, but there is a marriage
>> for Dulcie, to Henry Saunders, 5th January 1919, at St Helen's Church, North
>> Kensington, father Joseph Turner, actor. The image of the original register
>> entry is available on Ancestry.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rebecca Williams
>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:43 PM
>> Subject: [SOUTH-AFRICA] Look-up: St. Cyprian's Kimberley Baptism Records
>> Dear All,
>> I'm looking for someone who could kindly carry out a look-up of 2 baptism
>> records that I found (via Ancestry24.com). I would like to know if the
>> mother's name is noted and any other useful information (exact birth dates,
>> places, occupations etc).
>> Cecil Bertie Wallis TURNER (assuming between 1887 and 1891)
>> Dulcie Augusta Eugenia TURNER (born abt 1889)
>> Father is noted as: Joseph Ward TURNER
>> Mother should be: Annie TURNER (nee GIBBS) born 1869 Battersea, Surrey,
>> Joseph and Annie married in Q3 1887 in Battersea, Surrey, England. Annie and
>> her daughter Dulcie can be found in Battersea again in 1891 census living
>> with Annie's parents. There is no trace of Joseph or Cecil. I was not even
>> aware of Cecil until I happened to google Joseph's name and the links to
>> these baptism records cropped up.
>> Annie went on to marry an Alfred BROOKS in 1892 in London, England. She
>> married under her maiden name of GIBBS which leads me to believe that Joseph
>> may not have returned to the UK. I wonder if there are any marriages for a
>> Joseph Ward TURNER in South Africa or perhaps a death? Is there also any
>> trace of Cecil Bertie Wallis TURNER in South Africa? I also wonder if there
>> is a recording of Joseph and Annie's arrival in South Africa (between 1887
>> and 1891) and was it the diamond rush that took them there?
>> Thanks to anyone who could help me out. I would be willing to repay with any
>> UK look-ups that may be required.
>> Best regards,
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