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From: josie bass <>
Subject: Re: [S.Un] On the March
Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 00:21:37 -0500
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Of course it is my name - how childish of you - you can visit me at

Josephine Lindsay Bass
Confederate Southern American
216 Beach Park Lane
Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
321-868-1771
My Southern Family, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/
Harrison Repository,
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/harintro.htm

BTW where is your home?

Sir, I don't believe I called you any names and tried to slander you as
your message has me.

I don't thank you kindly,

josie

At 05:06 PM 1/7/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>I am sorry, I rarely post and hardly ever respond to josie, but now she is
>close to home.
>
>There is no doubt that the Civil War was a _war_. It was not an opera or a
>ballet or a church social. Meridian was a rail head and Vicksburg was the
>last existing connection between West and East in the Confederacy. Both
>were entirely appropriate targets.
>
>"Looting" is a careless term when used to describe military actions last
>year, much less one hundred forty years ago. The propaganda on both sides
>at the time focused on cavalry and it was not unusual for each side to deny
>the duly constituted military units of the opposition as "raiders".
>
>My ancestors, three of them, were members of the 1st Alabama Cavalry. They
>came from North Alabama, in what was then Winston and is now Cullman,
>county. They were involved in the fighting at Stones River in Tennessee,
>where two of them died, and later joined by cousins and friends, rode at
>Corinth, in adjunctive missions in support of Grant's penetration and
>conquest of Jackson and Vicksburg.
>
>At the time, and during Reconstruction, there was never anything like the
>present attempt to paint these men as criminals. This is an invention of
>extremists, of whom ms. bass is one. The 1st Alabama was one of the most
>excellent units organized early and always under strict military
>supervision. They can be easily likened to our current light infantry, such
>as the 101st Airborne, who in their museum at Ft. Campbell pay them homage.
>
>The men of the 1st Alabama believed that the Confederacy was a horrible
>mistake, with nothing whatsoever to contribute to themselves, their
>families, or their nation, and doctrines obviously in contravention to their
>religion. One may question their judgement and challenge their decision,
>but not their moral standing.
>
>Shame on Ms. Bass, if that is truly you name.
>
>Dan Speegle
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: josie bass <>
>To: <>
>Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 12:38 PM
>Subject: [S.Un] On the March
>
>
> > Sorry, i didn't realize some wouldn't know some of the history of the 1st
> > Alabama-Union and their participation on the March. When Sherman left
> > Vicksburg after the Union victory in 1863, and the Confederate army was
> > occupied elsewhere they cut a wide path burning and looting as they went,
> > burned Meridian, Jackson, and Vicksburg, Mississippi.
> >
> > "For a look into the mind of Union General William Tecumseh Sherman,
> > consider a letter he wrote his wife on July 31, 1862. In explaining the
> > strategy he meant to employ against the Southern people (lately his fellow
> > citizens and neighbors), he told her, "extermination, not of soldiers
> > alone. but the people", was his goal. Long before the wanton burning of
> > Atlanta, Georgia and Columbia, South Carolina, he ordered his men to burn
> > Randolph, Tennessee, along with the towns of Meridian, Jackson, and
> > Vicksburg, Mississippi. In a wire he sent to General Grant in the spring
>of
> > 1863, Sherman happily reported, "Meridian no longer exists". A quote by
> > Sherman on the eve of his infamous March To the Sea in 1864 in which he
> > declares "we must kill 300,000". Still another quote which helps clarify
> > Sherman's intentions is "that the present class of men who rule the South
> > must be killed outright".
> >
> > In a recent article by Joseph Stromberg titled "Strategies of
>Annihilation:
> > Total War in US History", Stromberg takes note of the historical record of
> > Sherman's depredations in the South and asks a question totally ignored in
> > history classes across the country. Whatever happened to the 50,000
>missing
> > Southern civilians that were never heard from again as a result of
> > Lincoln's determination to take the war to noncombatants? Historian John
> > Bigelow, in 1915 described the war as practiced by the North as
> > "depredation and spoliation". Space does not allow for a recitation of the
> > atrocities that history records of Sherman's crimes against the Southern
> > people, but one instance may shed some much needed light on its universal
> > application to all Southerners. These kinds of facts have been too long
> > closeted in the dark shadows of Yankee self-righteousness.
> > In Francis W. Springers 1990 book, "War For What", he cites instances that
> > suggest the real fate of those 50,000 civilians who disappeared along
> > Sherman's line of march and as the result of Lincoln's "compassionate" war
> > policy."
> >
> > "A raiding party from Sherman's army on its way north came to the home of
> > Robert Hemphill, a wealthy South Carolina planter. In the absence of all
> > white men, they were met by a trusted old Negro, Burrell Hemphill. When
>the
> > faithful slave refused to reveal the hiding place of the family valuables,
> > the raiders dragged him at the end of a rope into the forest, hanged him
> > and riddled his body with bullets. His 12-year-old grandson witnessed the
> > whole proceedings. A granite marker now stands 3 miles northeast of
> > Blackstock, South Carolina. It is engraved: In memory of Burrell Hemphill,
> > killed by Union soldiers February 1865. Although a slave he gave his life
> > rather than betray a trust."
> >
> > You can visit this website to see a detailed list of authors, titles,
> > descriptions of books old & new in various categories which is most
>helpful
> > in describing events in the South from the Rev War, the Constitution,
> > Slavery, through Reconstruction.
> >
> > http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/wilson5.html
> >
> > The South and Southern History
> > by Clyde Wilson
> > Basic Books
> >
> > Dr. Wilson [send him mail] is professor of history at the University of
> > South Carolina and editor of The Papers of John C. Calhoun.
> >
> > William Gilmore Simms, The Sack and Destruction of Columbia, South
>Carolina
> > (eyewitness account by the South's greatest writer at the time)
> >
> > josie
> >
> >
> >
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> >
Josephine Lindsay Bass
Confederate Southern American
216 Beach Park Lane
Cape Canaveral, FL 32920
321-868-1771
My Southern Family, http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~mysouthernfamily/
Harrison Repository,
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~harrisonrep/harintro.htm

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