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From: "Jack Steer" <>
Subject: Re: [STEER] John and Thomas Steer
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2005 09:20:30 +0100
References: <BAY102-F1995580AF0DF68D0CD8907A39F0@phx.gbl>


Margaret,

I can see no obvious way forward on finding out whether or not George DAWSON
was John STEER's father, but it is just possible research into the
subsequent WOOD family might provide a clue.

Does anyone have any records for WOOD gravestones in Crowhurst?

Margaret wrote

<Don't feel brave or rich enough to send off for either of these
certificates, as only vague possibility that they refer to Thomas STEER born
1816 in Crowhurst, Surrey>

Very wise, especially as in 1851 a Thomas STEER (unmarried farm labourer
aged 40, born Crowhurst, Surrey) was living at Sunt Farm, Oxted, Surrey as a
servant in the household of Benjamin STEER (farmer of 220 acres employing 5
men and 1 boy, aged 56, born Crowhurst, Surrey). If this is the same Thomas,
Benjamin was his uncle, but I do not know the answer to this riddle.

I did wonder whether Thomas STEER was dead by 1822 as James and Mary Ann
appear to have had four children baptised in Crowhurst and as the third was
a Thomas, perhaps Thomas STEER had died, but I do not have his burial and
there appears to be no such record in Crowhurst.

21.6.1818 - Emma WOOD - James and Mary of Challomes Farm

13.6.1819 - William WOOD

24.2.1822 - Thomas WOOD

17.8.1823 - Dinah WOOD

And on 17.3.1822 Thomas WOOD an infant was buried in Crowhurst

There are two James WOOD wills that might provide the answer

James WOOD of Croydon, Surrey - 15 October 1845 - Catalogue reference PROB
11/2026 - Prerogative Court of Canterbury

James WOOD, Nursery and Seedsman of Saint George the Martyr Southwark,
Surrey - 6 January 1853 - Catalogue reference PROB 11/2166 - Prerogative
Court of Canterbury

And I found this intriguing entry in the Surrey quarter sessions - Epiphany
Sessions 1798 - ref QS2/6/1798Eph/50

Notice of trial by James WOOD upon an indictment for assault brought against
him by Mary WOOD his wife

Nothing to do with this James WOOD as he was the illegitimate son of Ann
WOOD



Regards,

Jack Steer

----- Original Message -----
From: "margaret wilkinson" <>
To: <>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 9:07 PM
Subject: [STEER] John and Thomas Steer


> Jack and other listers who may be interested. I have had the following
> reply today, which does imply that John and Thomas Steer were brothers,
> no information re their father as John Dawson.
> Other than his christening in IGI, 6 Oct 1816, I have found no other
> references to Thomas Steer, or Thomas Wood.
> No evidence of either of them being brought up with James Wood, have sent
> queries re this to Wood list with no response.
>
> Here is the reply from Surrey History Centre,
> Margaret
>
> Ms Margaret Wilkinson
>
>
> Our ref: SHS/LS/4164/05
> Your ref:
>
> 14 September 2005
>
> Dear Ms Wilkinson
>
> JOHN STEER
>
> Thank you for your e-mail of 8 September concerning the father of John
> Steer.
>
> A search has been made in our poor law records of the parish of Crowhurst
> for any Bastardy Bonds, but unfortunately none have survived.
>
> I also checked the West Surrey Family History Society's Poor Law database,
> but without success.
>
> A search was also made in the Crowhurst baptism register for any clues,
> but
> it just gave the following,
>
> 31 July 1814, John, the base born son of Mary Ann Steer was baptised.
> Profession, father's daughter.
>
> I also found another entry for
>
> 6 October 1816, Thomas, the base born son of Mary Ann Steer was
> baptised. Profession, father's daughter.
>
> I also found Mary Ann's baptism on 10 March 1795, but there was no mention
> of a George Dawson, although he could have been baptised in another
> parish.
>
> Unfortunately we cannot confirm that George Dawson was John Steer's
> father.
>
>
>
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