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From: "Jack Steer" <>
Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER from Bovey Tracey to Essex
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:37:34 +0100
References: <6E8E4646882E244C89BA7CA3353405D501EE8A22@emea-slo-ex002.emea.cpwr.corp>


Thanks Gaynor, I'd forgotten about that Genuki page.



There is a lot of information on Trinity House held at the Guildhall
Library - http://ihr.sas.ac.uk/gh/ghinfo7.htm



Regards

Jack Steer


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steer, Gaynor" <>
To: <>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER from Bovey Tracey to Essex


> Has anyone looked at this site for |Lighthouse keepers?
>
> http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/Lighthouses/Keepers.html
>
> It has all the information on Joseph STEER and William CUTTING
> lighthouse keepers, talked about below.
>
> Gaynor
>
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> From: [mailto:] On
> Behalf Of Jack Steer
> Sent: 18 April 2008 00:14
> To:
> Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER from Bovey Tracey to Essex
>
>
> Mike,
>
> I've dug out emails on the STEER lighthouse keepers going back a fair
> few
> years and this is how I think that they connect with Bovey.
>
>
>
> Joseph STEER was born 5 March 1831 in Bovey Tracey. He was a shoemaker
> and
> one of the 8 children of John STEER, b. 21 January 1792 in Bovey Tracey,
>
> married Grace SMITH (b. 20 May 1798 in Bovey Tracey). They were married
> at
> Bovey on 14 July 1822. Their children were Joseph born 1831, Jonas born
> 1834, Elizabeth born 1837 and Mary born 1840.
>
> In 1855 Joseph STEER (born 1831) married Susan MANLEY at Bovey. Susan
> may
> have been a stepdaughter as she gave her father as 'John PASCOE'. (Later
> she
> called herself Susannah Manley PASCOE)
>
> By 1861 Joseph was a lighthouse keeper in Plymouth, living with his wife
>
> Susan and his children Hephzibah born 1857 and Rhoda born 1858.
>
> Around 1864 to 1866 Joseph was a lighthouse keeper at Dovercourt
> (Harwich)
> where his sons John and Theophilus were born.
>
> In 1869 Joseph STEER was a lighthouse keeper on Les Hanois light
> Guernsey,
> his son Ebenezer Clement was born on Guernsey in 1869. Joseph's wife
> gives
> her maiden name as Susannah Manley PASCOE.
>
> In 1871 Hephzibah and Rhoda STEER were living with their (presumed) step
>
> relatives in Bovey Tracey: the PASCOE household at Heathfield cottages.
>
> Joseph and Susan STEER meanwhile were living at Start lighthouse in
> Devon
> with their other children Trefena born 1862, Theophilus born 1864, John
> born
> 1866 and Ebenezer born 1869. Amy was born at Start in 1873.
>
> In 1877 Rhoda STEER married Thomas CUTTING at Penzance. Thomas was a
> lighthouse keeper on the isolated Longships light and later on the
> equally
> isolated Lizard lighthouse. Their first child was registered in Q1 1879
> in
> Helston, Cornwall as Thomas Herbert CUTTING (GRO 5c 203). By 1881 Thomas
> was
> keeper at Dungeness lighthouse 3, Lydd, Kent with Rhoda and two
> children,
> Thomas H (aged 2 born Lizard, Cornwall) and Rhoda E (aged 1) and born in
>
> Penmon, Anglesea, presumably on a visit to her parents.
>
> In 1881 Joseph STEER was still a lighthouse keeper at Menai lighthouse
> on
> Anglesey, living with three of his children, Tryphenie (teacher of
> sewing at
> school), Ebenezer C and Anny E S (both scholars). Meanwhile Josiah John
> was
> living a few miles away in Beaumaris in the household of Thomas WALKER,
> a
> retired bookseller and stationer from Salford, Lancashire.
>
> The eldest daughter Hephzibah was a governess aged 24 living in Poplar,
> London with her brother Theophilus who was an engineer's pattern maker
> (at
> works) aged 17 and born in Harwich, Essex. In Q4 1881 Richard GREEN was
> married to Hephzibah STEER in Poplar, Middlesex district (GRO 1c 1241).
>
> I understand that in 1891 Thomas and Rhoda were still in Dungeness, but
> I
> have not seen the details of that census.
>
> The two STEER brothers Joseph Theophilus (birth registered Tendring Q4
> 1863)
> and Josiah John (birth registered Tendring Q3 1865) were married to two
> sisters in Q3 1895 in Whitechapel, London. The sisters were Martha
> Sophia
> and Maria GOULD.
>
> Joseph Theophilus (death registered West Ham Q1 1914) and Martha Sophia
> had
> at least one child Joseph Daniel STEER (birth registered West Ham Q2
> 1897),
> who enlisted in the Machine Gun Corps (infantry) 123rd Company and was
> killed on 17.9.1916 aged 19. His name appears on the Thiepval Memorial,
> Somme, France Pier and Face 5 C and 12 C, so presumably his body was
> never
> recovered.
>
> In Q2 1896 Ebenezer Clement STEER was married to Harriet Emily THORPE in
>
> West Ham, Essex district (GRO 4a 94). I have read that they had five
> children, but have not had time to confirm the details. The five were
> Ethel
> born 1896, Winifred born 1899, Evie born 1903, Clement, Ida born 1909.
> Dave
> Turton also recorded that Harriet died in 1910 and Ebenezer then married
>
> Minnie KNOWLES in 1913, a widow with two children.
>
> This also came from Dave Turton
>
> <In 1901 Theophilus and Martha are living in West Ham and had two
> children:
> Joseph born 1897 and Ursula born 1898.
>
> Joseph STEER died in 1895 after retiring to live in the West Ham area,
> his
> wife Susan had died in 1893 also in West Ham.
>
> Ida STEER married William TURTON in 1927 in Woolwich and they are my
> paternal grandparents.
>
> In 1898 Hephzibah died in Edmonton. The family tradition (with limited
> document support) is that Amy STEER then married the widowed Richard
> GREEN
> on Guernsey, where this was legal. To complicate matters Rhoda E STEER
> also
> married a GREEN (but I haven't found any marriage records yet).>
>
> I also have this
>
> Clement Edward STEER died on 25.3.1941 aged 37, the son of Ebenezer
> Clement
> and Harriet Emily STEER and husband of Gwendoline Mary STEER of
> Llanishen,
> Cardiff. He was a second lieutenant in the Indian Army Royal Armoured
> Corps
> formerly 9th Queen's Royal Lancers, RAC and is commemorated on the
> Brookwood
> Memorial, Surrey Panel 26. Column 1.
>
> The Brookwood Memorial commemorates 3,500 men and women of the land
> forces
> of the Commonwealth who died during the Second World War and have no
> known
> grave, the circumstances of their death being such that they could not
> appropriately be commemorated on any of the campaign memorials in the
> various theatres of war. They died in the campaign in Norway in 1940, or
> in
> the various raids on enemy occupied territory in Europe such as Dieppe
> and
> St Nazaire. Others were special agents who died as prisoners or while
> working with Allied underground movements. Some died at sea, in hospital
>
> ships and troop transports, in waters not associated with the major
> campaigns, and a few were killed in flying accidents or in aerial
> combat.
>
> He appears to come under the died at sea category. There is no grave at
> Brookwood, just the name on the memorial.
>
> And this from Dave Turton
>
> <Here is the C E Steer obituary.
>
> PRESUMED LOST AT SEA
>
> Mrs C E STEER 12 Rhydypennau Close, Cardiff has been officially informed
>
> that her husband second lieutenant C E STEER, Indian Army, must now be
> presumed lost at sea through enemy action.
>
> He saw service in France with the 9th Lancers. Before volunteering,
> second
> lieutenant STEER was the South Wales manager of Messrs Smith and Lister
> Ltd,
> London, wholesale millinery specialists, by whom he was employed for 20
> years.
>
> He was a freemason and a member of the Cardiff golf club.>
>
> Can anyone fill in the gaps or add background to this rather sketchy
> outline?
>
> And can anyone involved with the STEER families in east and northeast
> London
> make any connection?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jack Steer
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Steer" <>
> To: <>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 12:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [STEER] STEER from Bovey Tracey to Essex
>
>
>> Jack: Unusual though the names are, I have both Theophilus (b. 1864)
> and
>> Hepsibah (b. 1856) in my Bovey Tracey tree as children of Joseph (b.
> 1831)
>> and Susannah STEER, the Trinity House Lightkeeping family in Guernsey
> and
>> later at Start Point then the Menai Light off North Wales. I'd
> certainly
>> agree that Rohey Tragey looks like LDS for Bovey Tracey. I had a
> similar
>> problem with my grandfather, hiding in Middlesex under Povey Racy in
> the
>> 1881 census. The Essex group might well be related to us in some way,
> but
>> I
>> don't know how, Mike.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jack Steer" <>
>> To: <>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 9:02 PM
>> Subject: [STEER] STEER from Bovey Tracey to Essex
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I noticed Joseph Daniel STEER son of Joseph Theophilus STEER
> (deceased)
>>> and Martha Sophia STEER of 13 Crescent Rd, Plaistow, Essex on the
>>> Commonwealth War Graves Commission. My eyes lit up, as Theophilus is
> not
>>> a
>>> common forename and was introduced into the South Milton herd (my
> family)
>>> by marriage to a LEAMON. I think that I was wrong.
>>>
>>> As far as I can tell this family originated in Tendring district,
> that
>>> part of Essex, which includes Ardleigh, Clacton, Harwich,
> Manningtree, St
>>> Osyth and Thorpe.
>>>
>>> It seems likely that two STEER brothers Joseph Theophilus (birth
>>> registered Tendring Q4 1863) and Josiah John (birth registered
> Tendring
>>> Q3
>>> 1865) were married to two sisters in Q3 1895 in Whitechapel, London.
> The
>>> sisters were Martha Sophia and Maria GOULD.
>>>
>>> Joseph Theophilus (death registered West Ham Q1 1914) and Martha
> Sophia
>>> had at least one child Joseph Daniel STEER (birth registered West Ham
> Q2
>>> 1897), who enlisted in the Machine Gun Corps (infantry) 123rd Company
> and
>>> was killed on 17.9.1916 aged 19. His name appears on the Thiepval
>>> Memorial, Somme, France Pier and Face 5 C and 12 C, so presumably his
>
>>> body
>>> was never recovered.
>>>
>>> A quick look at the 1881 census has made me wonder quite where this
>>> family
>>> originated or may be it is just chance, because in 1881 Joseph
> Theophilus
>>> was an engineer's pattern maker (at works) aged 17 and born Harwich,
>>> Essex
>>> was lodging with one Hepsibah STEER a governess aged 24 and born in
> Rohey
>>> Tragey?, Devon. That could be LDS for Bovey Tracey.
>>>
>>> Is there anyone researching the STEER family in Essex? And what
> happened
>>> to Hepsibah?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jack Steer
>>> Banbury
>>>
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